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The Dallas Fanzine is an awesome page. They have a lot of rare behind the scenes photos. In one they show Victoria Principal on the set of the 1978 5 part mini series with the Box family maid. The interior of the Box mansion is different than what was shown on camera. They used a different interior (with the dark woodwork) from another house. The Box house had painted trim typical of colonial style homes like the permanent Southfork. It's a shame that house burned in 1987. 

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Not to repeat myself but, when I re-watched season 1 & 2 of Dallas, I loved the original version of Miss Ellie when she was a bit more of a Lady Mcbeth.  Early in the series there are multiple scenes with Ellie and Sue-Ellen where she is telling her daughter-in-law to hurry up and get pregnant or Pam was going to have the first born heir to Southfork.  Later in the series Sue Ellen's mother played a similar role, but I was amused that Miss Ellie was not always as sweet as she appeared in later seasons.  

 

I like a bitchier Miss Ellie because it explains more of JR's motivations and sets the stage for the Bobby/JR feud that was later heightened by Jock's will.  Also, Jock's will was one of the best dramatic devices in response to the death of an actor that has ever been played out on a soap.  One has to wonder if Jim Davis had lived would the series have lasted as long?

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1 hour ago, j swift said:

One has to wonder if Jim Davis had lived would the series have lasted as long?

 

True, and what if they hadn't been able to get Barbara Bel Geddes back? Donna Reed passed on in early 1986, and I doubt they would wanted to recast again. Larry Harman may have been the star of the show, but the Ewing parents proved to be irreplaceable.

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IIRC, Barbara Bel Geddes left again before the show's final season, and the show explained her absence by saying she (and Clay, right?) had moved to Europe.  If they hadn't been able to get her back after firing Donna Reed, they might've done the same thing with the character.

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18 minutes ago, Khan said:

IIRC, Barbara Bel Geddes left again before the show's final season, and the show explained her absence by saying she (and Clay, right?) had moved to Europe.  

 

Yes, they were written out as going on an extended tour of the Orient. Supposedly, Barbara Bel Geddes wanted to retire from acting for good.

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12 hours ago, j swift said:

Not to repeat myself but, when I re-watched season 1 & 2 of Dallas, I loved the original version of Miss Ellie when she was a bit more of a Lady Mcbeth.  Early in the series there are multiple scenes with Ellie and Sue-Ellen where she is telling her daughter-in-law to hurry up and get pregnant or Pam was going to have the first born heir to Southfork.  Later in the series Sue Ellen's mother played a similar role, but I was amused that Miss Ellie was not always as sweet as she appeared in later seasons.  

 

I like a bitchier Miss Ellie because it explains more of JR's motivations and sets the stage for the Bobby/JR feud that was later heightened by Jock's will.  Also, Jock's will was one of the best dramatic devices in response to the death of an actor that has ever been played out on a soap.  One has to wonder if Jim Davis had lived would the series have lasted as long?

Miss Ellie's fallible side should have been explored more. On the other hand, the fact that she and Jock never quite reconciled their failings as parents made for some really good drama. The J.R./Miss Ellie scene is a classic, but I also love Jock's reaction at the end of his encounter.

 

 

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