So Victoria just ups and leaves a credit card in the drawer? LOL how convenient! I'm still rolling my eyes at the contrived Billy/Reed bond and Victoria the outsider. I mean, it makes sense she's not able to get close to her son but Billy involved just reeks of manipulative writing. We all know it's so Billy and Victoria can be shoved together further, so she can see how good he is with her son, etc. Zzzzz. MAKE IT STOP!! LOL

 

I liked Hillary and Jack and Jill and Jack.

 

I like Lily admitting she's tired of her hatred towards Hillary. Good cause I am too. It was getting tiresome as that's all she did. She was a lot more likable today not ranting and raving.

 

LOL I loved Cane and Hillary staring each other down. Homegirl is doing herself no favors. I don't see how this ends good for her. I'm glad this accident has shown her by his side, etc. and it's meant to 'prove their love' so to speak but I just don't care for the temporary amnesia thing. She could have done all of this with him resisting her and knowing why he was in that crash. I just think they're doing it for some lame conflict which they don't really need. JMO.

Edited January 16, 20178 yr by KMan101

4 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

So Victoria just ups and leaves a credit card in the drawer?

 

Hey now...I leave credit cards in my drawer too...LOL.  It is plausible. And hey Reed got his groove on with that purchase...LOL. He looked so happy coming down the stairs....LMAO

6 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Hey now...I leave credit cards in my drawer too...LOL.  It is plausible. And hey Reed got his groove on with that purchase...LOL. He looked so happy coming down the stairs....LMAO

 

LOL. No, it is. I've seen my parents do it as well. I personally don't leave active credit cards laying around. I just thought it was super convenient. LOL.

The least plausible part was Reed PAYING for Porn. Um, hello it's 2017, there's a million "Youtube" like sites with free porn. Certainly a boy his age would know of them. 

6 minutes ago, wingwalker said:

The least plausible part was Reed PAYING for Porn. Um, hello it's 2017, there's a million "Youtube" like sites with free porn. Certainly a boy his age would know of them. 

 

Fo sho

 

31 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

LOL I loved Cane and Hillary staring each other down. Homegirl is doing herself no favors. I don't see how this ends good for her. I'm glad this accident has shown her by his side, etc. and it's meant to 'prove their love' so to speak but I just don't care for the temporary amnesia thing. She could have done all of this with him resisting her and knowing why he was in that crash. I just think they're doing it for some lame conflict which they don't really need. JMO.

 

DG was so bad in those scenes.  

 

Eh, I don't feel it's a lame conflict at all, and I'm exactly sure how this would play out the same way had Devon not suffered a memory lapse?  

 

 

13 minutes ago, wingwalker said:

The least plausible part was Reed PAYING for Porn. Um, hello it's 2017, there's a million "Youtube" like sites with free porn. Certainly a boy his age would know of them. 

 

This something a 1980s soap writer would write. 2017 writer would write Reed watching porn on his computer. 

46 minutes ago, wingwalker said:

The least plausible part was Reed PAYING for Porn. Um, hello it's 2017, there's a million "Youtube" like sites with free porn. Certainly a boy his age would know of them. 

Maybe he wanted a particular video not available for free.

32 minutes ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

This something a 1980s soap writer would write. 2017 writer would write Reed watching porn on his computer. 

 

The One Day At A Time reboot did a much better job on their episode about a similary topic.

29 minutes ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

This something a 1980s soap writer would write. 2017 writer would write Reed watching porn on his computer. 

Well they are ancient aren't they?

58 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

LOL. No, it is. I've seen my parents do it as well. I personally don't leave active credit cards laying around. I just thought it was super convenient. LOL.

 

Something about that scene seemed off...like, too 'on the nose' to me. There was no context for it, other than an earlier scene of Reed with some condoms. Some scenes are missing that would have made that scene "work" better.

Just now, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Something about that scene seemed off...like, too 'on the nose' to me. There was no context for it, other than an earlier scene of Reed with some condoms. Some scenes are missing that would have made that scene "work" better.

He did have a talk with Billy about his first time with a female and then mentioned that JT had already talked to him about the birds and the bees which led to today's episode..

Victoria almost walking in on reed watching porn...would have worked better...to show the awkwardness that exists between them.

 

I am liking jack as a mentor to hilary...it was the one element from Altman's era I agreed with.. as well as a promise of a Jill and hilary scene....another combo ALtman started before spinning hilary off into that weird Neil marriage thing....when alemán months earlier said nothing romantic/sexual would happen between them.

6 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

He did have a talk with Billy about his first time with a female and then mentioned that JT had already talked to him about the birds and the bees which led to today's episode..

 

No, I mean about the credit card (lol). Something about him knowing instinctively that it was there. Was it a guess or had he seen Victoria use it and put it in the drawer? 

4 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

Victoria almost walking in on reed watching porn...would have worked better...to show the awkwardness that exists between them.

 

I am liking jack as a mentor to hilary...it was the one element from Altman's era I agreed with.. as well as a promise of a Jill and hilary scene....another combo ALtman started before spinning hilary off into that weird Neil marriage thing....when alemán months earlier said nothing romantic/sexual would happen between them.

 

Honestly, that would've been more effective.

 

I'm now absolutely sure TPTB read these boards sometimes because I mentioned months ago that someone (maybe Jack) could remind Jill of from whence she came and point out the similarities to Hillary as both being ambitious strivers working class backgrounds! 

I also mentioned that maybe someone (maybe Devon) would do the same to Hillary. In my scenario, it would've been after Hillary tries to muscle into CI(and Devon pulls rank as an investor to help her) against Jill's protestations.

 

I still think having Hill and Jill working at CI would've been the ticket!

Edited January 16, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I'm now absolutely sure TPTB read these boards sometimes because I mentioned months ago that someone (maybe Jack) could remind Jill of from whence she came and point out the similarities to Hillary as both being ambitious strivers working class backgrounds! 

I also mentioned that maybe someone (maybe Devon) would do the same to Hillary. In my scenario, it would've been after Hillary tries to muscle into CI(and Devon pulls rank as an investor to help her) against Jill's protestations.

 

 I don't agree with Devon as the investor part. Jill had to deal with Katherine lording over for 40 years it'd be demeaning for her have to run around in circles to please some 20-year-old. Why is it that Devon is always crowned king in these scenarios? He should go through the angst other young characters go through, not be made into a instant Victor where he's always on top and calling the shots. The last thing Y&R needs is a always-winning character starting in their 20s. Devon is already without angst from a parental character like the Newman and Abbots kids have to deal with.

 

If anything Devon and/or Hillary should GET angst from Jill,  NOT give Jill angst. 

I never see story suggestions about having Jack or Victor being ordered around by their kids.

 

If anyone should have shares in Chancellor Industries it's Phillip III and Chance, since Kay murdered their father/grandfather. I'd love if they found an addendum to Kays will, so she could set things right with the universe.

2 hours ago, GMac said:

 

Fo sho

 

 

DG was so bad in those scenes.  

 

Eh, I don't feel it's a lame conflict at all, and I'm exactly sure how this would play out the same way had Devon not suffered a memory lapse?  

 

 

 

I just find my alternative more interesting. Hillary worried about being exposed again as Devon sits there blind. We keep doing the same thing with them. I think it's lame-o. Not being snarky but what do you find good or interesting about it?

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Something about that scene seemed off...like, too 'on the nose' to me. There was no context for it, other than an earlier scene of Reed with some condoms. Some scenes are missing that would have made that scene "work" better.

 

Agreed

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

No, I mean about the credit card (lol). Something about him knowing instinctively that it was there. Was it a guess or had he seen Victoria use it and put it in the drawer? 

 

Honestly, that would've been more effective.

 

I'm now absolutely sure TPTB read these boards sometimes because I mentioned months ago that someone (maybe Jack) could remind Jill of from whence she came and point out the similarities to Hillary as both being ambitious strivers working class backgrounds! 

I also mentioned that maybe someone (maybe Devon) would do the same to Hillary. In my scenario, it would've been after Hillary tries to muscle into CI(and Devon pulls rank as an investor to help her) against Jill's protestations.

 

I still think having Hill and Jill working at CI would've been the ticket!

 

Yep. Agreed again. Jill now suddenly back drinking the Hillary haterade and all of a sudden interested in Devon reeks hollow to me. I'm all for Hillary vs. Jill but not like this.