Members DRW50 Posted December 19, 2016 Members Share Posted December 19, 2016 Noah never had a chance because the show never let Victoria or Nick grow up. That suffocated any children in a younger group. Sharon never really had a family, aside from Doris and Cassie (and Cassie ended up being closer to Nick), and Sharon herself was poorly written for most of Noah's life, so I'm not sure it would have mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted December 19, 2016 Members Share Posted December 19, 2016 Cassie only became close to Nick after Sharon temporarily left. Prior to that event (which fundamentally changed both characters & ultimately led to Cassie's death) Sharon was everything to Cassie. I don't agree that Noah didn't have a chance because the show never let Victoria & Nick grow up because Noah's lack of development has nothing to do with Victoria. Now had you included Reed being conveniently ushered off canvas (to keep Victoria "young") then we'd be on the same page. Y&R & Josh Morrow have spent the past decade & a half destroying Nicholas as a character. All because both parties refuse to admit Morrow can't carry the show. So subsequent regimes kept using Sharon Case's charisma to keep everyone in that family relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted December 19, 2016 Members Share Posted December 19, 2016 I was just mentioning him as he was the topic, but really I meant all the Newman kids younger than Victoria and Nick (Adam was aged younger and older at various points so I don't know what his age is supposed to be). They were all stifled. I guess there's Summer, but I haven't watched much of her run. I know Abby has had some too but the little I saw was wretched and I don't know if it got any better after Rylan (the last I saw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted December 19, 2016 Members Share Posted December 19, 2016 Adam is supposed to be around the same age as Noah. The character was SORASED to provide Nick with a rival but that was dropped because Engen & Muney outshined Morrow and Y&R was never going to let Nick lose. I do agree the younger Newmans development was stifled but that's a problem for Y&R in general. The Hastings/Barber/Winters, Abbott & Chancellor families have all been hamstrung by having most of their younger generations written out or killed off & after Ricky's death trying to find a Williams under 40 is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Meanwhile the Newmans keep breeding like rabbits. It reminds me of B&B circa 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted December 20, 2016 Members Share Posted December 20, 2016 Didn't people want Travis to be Sharon's brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GMac Posted December 20, 2016 Members Share Posted December 20, 2016 I recall seeing that SL suggestion a couple times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ryanc Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yeah, and I'm glad he didnt turn out to be. I really wanted to like Travis but they had to go and make him Billy 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 They should've just cast him as Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajsp35801 Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 I thought Adam was soras'd and brought back cause JM was in contract negotiations and the show didn't know how that'd go. Similar to them bringing on Tucker/SM when EB was in his negotiations. I don't think the nick and Adam rivalry ended cause JM was outshined. It seemed to end because Victor vs Adam became more popular and the show decided to go with it and make Adam Victor's successor. Sally clearly doesn't agree with that move. Nick's top D again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoTheGreat Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 I don't think they had to age Adam that much. They could have age him to his last year in High School. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajsp35801 Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 The show likes "mature" leads. A kid in high school couldn't replace mid 30s nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 Maybe if Morrow actually acted and not just yelled his lines and acted like an ape-man ... but he can't be a lead and he can't be what Sally wants Nick to be. Nick was never meant to take over for Victor. They even had Nikki say as much and pointed out that Victoria was the right successor, basically, but in her current form, that's also laughable. The problem is mediocre actors and less than good writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajsp35801 Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 Nick hasn't driven a story in all his years on the show. I can't think of one he had to carry. It was always Sharon. Victor carried that prison story Nick had way back when for Matt's death. Then phyllis carried it for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoTheGreat Posted December 21, 2016 Members Share Posted December 21, 2016 All Victoria is about is who she sleeping with. I miss the business side of Victoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted December 22, 2016 Members Share Posted December 22, 2016 Extremely doubtful. That had already happened not even a year earlier, when Nick suddenly "died" in a plane crash because LML hadn't secured his return yet and had to hastily write him out. Unless there were more contract negotiations not even a year later, I think Adam's arrival was just because Griffith decided it was time. You can say that again! JM has always been capable of decent moments... but he has been EXTREMELY lucky to have been surrounded for most of his good stories by actresses like SC, MTS, and HT (and, to a lesser degree, EB) who carried his ass. Especially Sharon Case. He owes her his entire career, which makes his desire for Nick to go more into Phyllis' orbit even stupider. Ah, well, no one ever accused actors of being clearheaded lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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