Finally finished the episode and it was good. The endings still make me sit there and go o_O even more than the actual case. I liked that she finally remembered laurel's name by the end of the episode and you most definitely have to watch out for the quiet ones. So they're saying the motive for the daughter killing the wife is that she found out that the father killed her birth mother?

I was weak at Liza's character when she was saying that she's nice and thus people think it is ok to talk to her and ask her questions.

I enjoyed it and I am intrigued to find out the circumstances of the husband's murder.

I knoooow. Like how the hell does that happen. Eric, did you find a gif set of the scene when Annalise is leaving the courtroom and when she's in the elevator smiling. I loved those scenes the most.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/tv_ratings_thursday_october_2_2014_gracepoint_bad_judge_a_to_z_how_to_get_away_with_murder-2014-10

8 p.m.

CBS: "Thursday Night Football" pregame (10 million viewers, 6.2/11 households)/"Thursday Night Football" - Packers/Vikings (13.7 million, 8.2/13)

ABC: "Grey's Anatomy" (9.1 million, 6.2/10)

FOX: "Bones" (6.3 million, 3.9/7)

NBC: "The Biggest Loser" (4.7 million, 3.1/5)

The CW: "The Vampire Diaries" season premiere (1.8 million, 1.2/2)

18-49 leader: "Thursday Night Football" (4.3)

9 p.m.

CBS: "Thursday Night Football" (14.2 million, 8.5/14)

ABC: "Scandal" (10.4 million, 7.0/11)

NBC: "Bad Judge" series premiere (5.9 million, 4.0/6)/"A to Z" series premiere (4.8 million, 3.2/5)

FOX: "Gracepoint" series premiere (4.8 million, 3.0/5)

The CW: "Reign" season premiere (1.05 million, 0.7/1)

18-49 leader: "Thursday Night Football" (4.9)

10 p.m.

ABC: "How to Get Away With Murder" (11.8 million, 7.7/13)

CBS: "Thursday Night Football" (11 million, 6.8/12)

NBC: "Parenthood" (4.4 million, 2.9/5)

18-49 leader: "Thursday Night Football" (4.1)

These are only overnights but the show dropped from a 9.3 rating to a 7.7 rating.....all shows tend to drop during the 2nd and 3rd week.....

I havent seen yesterdays show but everyone is saying the same thing...same old rehash.....So I am assuming they are still on the same murder....they should have done a murder mystery per week.....

Annalise defends a new murder each week but the college girl murder investigation continues and come to find out that the 4 students are

protecting Wes' neighbor, Rebecca, who seems to be involved in

Annalise Hubby's death. Wes & her seem to be romantic 3 months into the future

Edited October 3, 201411 yr by John

WHAT?! So we not only have to deal with flashbacks of the past but glimpses into the future too? I'm so confuzzled at this point but that won't stop me from watching.

There are no flashbacks boo. There is present day (the students being hired, defending the client of the week, Violas affair, ongoing murder mystery of the student Violas husband may have been having an affair with) and then the flash FORWARDS to the night that Violas husband gets murdered, the students hiding the body, Wes/Rebecca meeting in the hotel room.

ETA: I guess the "present day" stuff could be seen as a flashback from the murder of the husband stuff, but still there are only two timelines here.

Edited October 3, 201411 yr by Mr. Vixen

What Vix said!

There are no flashbacks boo. There is present day (the students being hired, defending the client of the week, Violas affair, ongoing murder mystery of the student Violas husband may have been having an affair with) and then the flash FORWARDS to the night that Violas husband gets murdered, the students hiding the body, Wes/Rebecca meeting in the hotel room.

ETA: I guess the "present day" stuff could be seen as a flashback from the murder of the husband stuff, but still there are only two timelines here.

Thanks Mr. Vix, yeah I considered some of the stuff as "flashbacks." I need a drink to keep up with this show, or a lot of reminders from y'all.

There are no flashbacks boo. There is present day (the students being hired, defending the client of the week, Violas affair, ongoing murder mystery of the student Violas husband may have been having an affair with) and then the flash FORWARDS to the night that Violas husband gets murdered, the students hiding the body, Wes/Rebecca meeting in the hotel room.

ETA: I guess the "present day" stuff could be seen as a flashback from the murder of the husband stuff, but still there are only two timelines here.

This is not addressed to you....but this is so fuking confusing.....lol.....so her husband is on show but is dead already in the past...because it isnt the present really if he is already dead......ugh.....

Like Scandal, the case-of-the-week stuff is usually boring and the better stuff is the season arc.

There's only two timelines. The present is when the husband is dead. The past is when he's alive. I don't see how that's so confusing.

There's only two timelines. The present is when the husband is dead. The past is when he's alive. I don't see how that's so confusing.

It's confusing because the "past timeline" is the main timeline. When the show catches up and forwards us to the future/general timeline people will get it more. As it stands, these "flash forwards" as they are, aren't doing too much for the story other than to shock the viewing audience with a Shonda Rhimes mandated "cliff hanger." She hasn't built the audience up to these shocking stories and as such there is little pay off other than shock value. Reminds me of Nip/Tuck in it's last seasons.

All in all I think these cases would work better if they segued some character development and made some analogies to the trials and the characters we are viewing. As it stands the characters are just there to do shady things and help guilty clients go free. There is no character study, or real internal conflict -- no bleeding to tell us who these characters truly are. It would work better if there was some kind of investment being made by these characters within these procedural episodes, otherwise there is no purpose. They started building something with that one female character who has morals, but what else is behind her? I guess we have 20+ more episodes to find out, but still.

Edited October 5, 201411 yr by Skin

I don't see how that's so confusing.

I'm an easily confused person! In reality ish that shouldn't be confusing is to me when it comes to television. Then you have neighbor girl who seems like she can't bloody stand Wes and his attempts to try and start something up, no matter if that be friendship or something more and NG rebuffs him... then at the end of the episode she's kissing him and telling him to not leave her while in a seedy motel. You tell me that's not confusing when I don't even know when these things take place.

Second episode was good but I can see how some thought it was a retread of the first. Still though I find the legal cases to be interesting. I can't decide if I like how open and front and center the gay character is but at some parts I was little "eye rolling" cuz it seemed it was taking away from the main plot.

Agreed about the time line. I'm confused as HELL. I have no idea what's going on as far the murder mystery.

I'm gonna need them to resolve that quickly.

It's confusing because the "past timeline" is the main timeline. When the show catches up and forwards us to the future/general timeline people will get it more. As it stands, these "flash forwards" as they are, aren't doing too much for the story other than to shock the viewing audience with a Shonda Rhimes mandated "cliff hanger." She hasn't built the audience up to these shocking stories and as such there is little pay off other than shock value. Reminds me of Nip/Tuck in it's last seasons.

All in all I think these cases would work better if they segued some character development and made some analogies to the trials and the characters we are viewing. As it stands the characters are just there to do shady things and help guilty clients go free. There is no character study, or real internal conflict -- no bleeding to tell us who these characters truly are. It would work better if there was some kind of investment being made by these characters within these procedural episodes, otherwise there is no purpose. They started building something with that one female character who has morals, but what else is behind her? I guess we have 20+ more episodes to find out, but still.

I believe the show will only 13-15 episodes this season

How are ya'll so confused?

There are only 2 timelines. Ya'll should stick to soaps *pats heads*

Edited October 6, 201411 yr by Days22