I so need Connor to prove he's worth more than simply sleeping with people in order to get information. He reminds me of the people that f**k for musical tracks in hopes that it'll be a hit and boost them to stardom.

Micheala and Connor are the only set of law students who have proven that they can actually get somethings done on their own, and have proven their resourcefulness, in multiple ways. Asher benefits only from nepotism, and Alfred couldn't find a clue if it mowed him down and then hit him again in reverse. Moral girl, seems at such a cross purpose with what Annalise and Co. do that I can't buy her ever truly fitting in. At least with Alfred, I can buy that he is foolish enough to be bended to Annalise's will. Similar to how the assistant bended to EP's character in the most recent episode.

Annalise's assistants are more or less window dressing, so I can't care about them.

On another note, those ratings aren't good. They're collapsing and need to start stabilizing in the next upcoming weeks.

Edited October 17, 201411 yr by Skin

Eh. That's how you feel but I hate that he uses sex so much to get a shred of paper to help her win case after case. Do something else or spread it out. I get just as tired watching females do it too. The only upside is that this hasn't been done on network TV before and I love them for going balls to the wall.

ABC: "How to Get Away With Murder" (9.7 million, 6.5/11)

First time it didnt win its time slot either.

last week the show had a 7.7 rating...remember the show started with an outstanding 9.4 rating.

Weren't you one of them that loved it at first? I really thought this show was going to be good but they way the story is being told is so off. The mini court murder mysteries are a bust ..IMO....

There's nothing wrong with the show's ratings. The whole lineup is down from where it was from premiere week. I expect numbers to go back up once the timelines finally collide.

Eh. That's how you feel but I hate that he uses sex so much to get a shred of paper to help her win case after case. Do something else or spread it out. I get just as tired watching females do it too. The only upside is that this hasn't been done on network TV before and I love them for going balls to the wall.

His sex scenes come across as tawdry to me. I really don't want to see that every week with him or any other character. If this were HBO or Showtime series it might come across better in execution but it's not.

Sex scenes were fine. Its on par with what they have shown for Connor. Totally in character imho

So those were the big 8 words...lame...lol...just watched last nights episode..I like Connor but what a whore he is...lol

I just realized that Criminal Minds beat HTGAWM this week in the ratings. HTGAWM still won the demo race(2.7-2.4) but CM won HH and TV race.

9 Soapsuds.... NINE!

Sex scenes were fine. Its on par with what they have shown for Connor. Totally in character imho

Him having sex is not the issue. The sex scenes are drawn out, gratuitous, and too graphic for network television. That line "He did this thing to my ass that made my eyes water" was explicit to me. I know I sound like a prude but I think stuff like that is better saved for premium cable.

ETA: This also has been going on on Scandal. Jake fingering Olivia and talking about he loves the way she ride it. I'm all for realistic television but not just throwing sex at the screen just to do it.

Edited October 19, 201411 yr by Eric83

Him having sex is not the issue. The sex scenes are drawn out, gratuitous, and too graphic for network television. That line "He did this thing to my ass that made my eyes water" was explicit to me. I know I sound like a prude but I think stuff like that is better saved for premium cable.

ETA: This also has been going on on Scandal. Jake fingering Olivia and talking about he loves the way she ride it. I'm all for realistic television but not just throwing sex at the screen just to do it.

That was graphic? It was like a minute even less. Thats the problem why should we save that for cable. Its on at 10pm. Kids are in bed. Its how people talk about sex, act during sex and then when they talk about it after. Seemed spot on to me.

ETA: Ive seen more explicit sex on Daytime. Bold & Beautiful back in the early 2000s with Brooke & Deacon for example

Edited October 19, 201411 yr by John

A Vanity Fair article calls the show "the most progressive on TV":

http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/2014/10/how-to-get-away-with-murder-gay-sex

I wonder if the more conservative viewers are turned off. Like I said, even I was surprised by the frankness of the gay sex depictions, especially when the assistant took off his pants, clearly glancing down at his erection. I haven't seen many heterosexual scenes that suggestive on network TV. Happy that they are pushing boundaries, and good for Paul Lee and his team for allowing it. Too bad the show just isn't good.

I wonder why progressive seems to translate to sexually explicit. I don't find it tasteful and I don't think it adds to the storytelling. Not offended or shocked. Just kind of bored with the attempt to shock. I'm still watching, for now.

I wonder why progressive seems to translate to sexually explicit. I don't find it tasteful and I don't think it adds to the storytelling. Not offended or shocked. Just kind of bored with the attempt to shock. I'm still watching, for now.

I get what your saying. I dont get why sex is still so taboo & why showing the realities of sexualities is so called progressive. Its a part of Life & should always be a part of TV and film when telling stories about characters living their lives.. Yes I would say Connor & the office guy was not tasteful. It was sleazy and it was supposed to be and Im glad they followed thru on it because right now it seems to be the kind of sex Connor likes to have.

Edited October 19, 201411 yr by John

I wonder why progressive seems to translate to sexually explicit. I don't find it tasteful and I don't think it adds to the storytelling. Not offended or shocked. Just kind of bored with the attempt to shock. I'm still watching, for now.

How I feel.

Since Annaliese removed her wig and it was supposedly a powerful moment I hope Viola can finally get out of that God awful wig. The real crime is that travesty upon her head. As for the rest of it... blah. The show is trying too hard. Nothing feels organic.

My fear is that they'll scapegoat the gay content for any fall in ratings. It's clear that Peter Nowalk has a mission to push boundaries with gay content on broadcast TV, and I think that's a worthy mission. We've seen so much "graphic" straight sex and similar innuendo on TV that it barely registers for us. Remember all of the heaving buttocks on NYPD Blue? That was in the '90s.

I have admired ABC's willingness to stand behind shows with casts that reflect the subways some of us ride every day and allowing folks other than straight white folk to take the lead. I don't want to see that curtailed.

Edited October 19, 201411 yr by Faulkner