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Empire: Discussion Thread

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Lee Daniels seems like the type of guy who doesn't put his name on anything he's not satisfied with. I can't see this woman messing up the show too much the L Word and Empire are two different shows with different cast members and writers.

He can be satisfied with something, but that doesn't make it good to the consumers. S1 had way too many holes/missed opps, and Lee may have been to strung out on the hype from this show to notice. Here's to hoping that idiot show runner doesn't squander this opportunity!

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    The men of Empire cover Essence, and each guy has his own individual cover.

    thats a hot cover. I'll take an order of Dre/Trai please

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    thats a hot cover. I'll take an order of Dre/Trai please

    Yep! Dre/Trai is smoking!

    There's a new interview with Chit's BFF out there. I'll try to find the link.

    I'm slightly concerned with 18 episodes. I'd be happier with 15-16 but 18 is only two more episodes than that. I like that the season will be split so they need to treat it as 9 solid episodes followed by 9 solid episodes, or however they break it down. The show definitely needed more than 12 episodes. 20-22 is too much and not going to happen, not with Howard and Taraji as the leads. I don't think they want 22 episodes. And this is a show that doesn't need 22 episodes. I'm even thinking 18 could be too much and we see that cut back for Season 3 into 15-16 episodes. But if each episode can deliver, I'd be fine with 18 episode seasons from here on out. Time will tell. Crossing my fingers.

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    The situation with Jenji was a bit different, she was on a network that consistently keeps their shows after their sell by date so the fault can't be hers alone in that regard. Dexter, Shameless, Queer As Folk, and Nurse Jackie have also experienced similar levels of reduction in quality, just because they all went on for too long. I don't know what creator isn't going to continue a series the network still wants to green light. Head writers and show runners need to pay their rent too. Weeds also had similar out of the box success with critics that OITNB currently has. Weeds was pretty well regarded until around season 5.

    Not sure about how this applies to the L Word, I didn't watch it, but Weeds was a major hit with critical communities in the beginning too.

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    So very true about Jenji Kohan. Weeds Seasons 1-3 were sooo good. And received a lot of buzz and attention (Mary Louise Parker got much deserved awards and attention). Dexter and Nurse Jackie also should have ended before they did/will. Both were very very good shows early on. Around Season 4/5 is when the shows seem to just veer too off track. Dexter wasn't the same after Season 4, and Weeds wasn't the same for me after Season 3. Never watched L Word.

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    She says that season 2 will be more of the same. Sigh! I hope she doesn't mean that in every way.

    I have no doubt that there's going to be some changes if for no other reason then they know they'll have a whole season where they don't have to worry about cancellation. It would take a lot for them to squander the buzz they've gotten. *pushes the memory of Sleepy Hollow away* Given what they've achieved the only reasonable response to questions about plans for the future is, "More of the same!"

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