Empire: Discussion Thread

[Errol]

Yup, her face was EVERYTHING. Andre's breakdown and the shower scene. So much said without uttering a single word. The episode itself was just non-stop from beginning to end, agree. I loved everything about it. Not a single scene was wasteful for me as a viewer.

[ChitHappens]

Andre's breakdown was EXCELLENT TV! I'm in awe!!!!

[Errol]

I know! I was like, "Wait, what? That can't be right." But it sadly is. Hopefully any new show that takes on the Empire model doesn't think it's all about showing dark skinned people on TV in prominent roles. I don't care if you're white, black, orange or blue, if the writing and the acting is there... I'm in!

[xtr]

Another great episode. I really enjoyed tonight's show. Especially the bonding moments between the Lyon's family. I enjoyed the scene where Lucious let Jamal know he cared about him and was there for him. I like how the whole family was caring towards Jamal's daughter. And also the scene with the reveal at the end and the close moment that Lucious shared with Hakeem and Jamal. I also enjoyed the Cookie and Lucious moments.

Edited February 19, 2015 by xtr

[NothinButAttitude]

Exactly! But it is going to be hard for a show to top Empire at this point. After 6/7 episodes, they've already established a good, loyal audience.

See this is what all the head writers on soaps need to be watching. This show! As someone stated, they don't have to use flashy stories to grab the audience. All we need are good, logical stories and characters to root for.

[Cheap21]

Damn, Lucious f--ked Cookie in Anika's bed. Im sorry but

[All My Shadows]

I'm really curious as to what they do with Elle. I like the angle she brings to the show, the variety that she represents for Empire. Also, I think she and Cookie have been a very interesting duo to watch. They must have her find out about Anika's dastardly deed so she and Cookie can knock her ass down. Not like Cookie needs her help...

Edited February 19, 2015 by All My Shadows

[Particular]

Um....Imma need a second to gather my wits! I can't with this show! OMG did all of this just happen?? Just when I thought I couldn't love this show anymore!!! OMG!

And....sidenote..we can live tweet up in here?? F.LOVE

Edited February 19, 2015 by Particular

[Errol]

Let's just pray that those that are watching in that capacity don't watch and take the Dynasty-ish aspect of Empire to their computers, but the compelling characters aspect instead. Most importantly, you don't need to introduce new characters to bring in new viewers. The characters that have been integrated into the family drama have yet to take away from the core of the show and that's what I love most about it. Every core character has a purpose and a future. A right turn doesn't drive them into a ditch, but into a natural path to their destination before they take a left turn to the next stage.

[Antoyne]

My only issue is them still not acknowledging Cookie having that man killed.

But what an awesome hour of television!

[Errol]

I don't want to think about that, but I believe it'll be addressed in some capacity by the season finale. Remember, the feds haven't been shown since that happened. It won't be ignored. They aren't *bleep*, *bleep* and *bleep* from their horrid stints writing *bleep* hospital, *bleep* life to live or *bleep* anything.

[NothinButAttitude]

All of this.

But I doubt any of them are watching Empire, TBH. Watching Empire would force these writers to see the error of their ways and face the truth when it comes to diversity and devising character driven stories on their shows. They'd rather do the same ole, same ole than realize that their writing does not resonate or appeal the mass anymore.

This show is just perfection. So perfect that I am scared the ball will drop. But I am keeping positive thoughts. They have me till the bitter end. Hell, they can do no worse than daytime at this point.

[MoTheGreat]

But, the only people knows is Cookie sister & the guy that was hired. But that guy could want more money & could cause trouble.

[All My Shadows]

I don't see anyone copying this. Its not mired in mythology or some contrived season-long mystery, and it's not entirely dark, so they'll just pretend it doesn't exist and is farting in the competition's breakfast cereal.

[Errol]

Oh, they are trying, believe me. They're just copying the wrong elements and are hoping the networks will buy into it for next season. Hopefully the network execs realize (yeah, that'll never happen) it won't work without what actually does resonate with the millions of Empire viewers each week.