Ronn's exit was sudden, but his contract renewal negotiations weren't. They'd been on-going for some time before he exited. But unlike other HWs and EPs who sense an actor might really leave and lessen their air time (or send the character off somewhere while the negotiations are on-going) Bell continued to write for the character of Ridge right up to the last days of the negotiations, and had to scramble to write the character out when the negotiations fell apart. That's not Ronn's fault or Brad's. It's just how it went down. Some viewers seem to think Ronn up and quit, leaving B&B high and dry. Not the case from what I understand.

Actually, the moment that Ronn was no longer working on contract and still under negotiations is the fault of the executive producer.

Actually, the moment that Ronn was no longer working on contract and still under negotiations is the fault of the executive producer.

Ronn quit. How is that the EP's fault???

Ronn quit. How is that the EP's fault???

I think EnglishTea meant that the fact that he was able to walk away so abruptly is the EP's fault. They should've just decided he was leaving while he was still under contract so they could write a less disruptive exit. Part of negotiations should include contingency planning for what to do if they fall through. ("Either sign by X date or we'll start writing your exit story.") That's how I took the comment.

Yes Mrs.Moss!!! Give it to them hunny because we all know your husband was the Gregory Peck of Daytime!!

Ronn Moss was abysmal. He wasn't entertainingly terrible, he was just unwatchable. And his wife sounds nuts!

Ronn Moss was abysmal. He wasn't entertainingly terrible, he was just unwatchable. And his wife sounds nuts!

+1

I think EnglishTea meant that the fact that he was able to walk away so abruptly is the EP's fault. They should've just decided he was leaving while he was still under contract so they could write a less disruptive exit. Part of negotiations should include contingency planning for what to do if they fall through. ("Either sign by X date or we'll start writing your exit story.") That's how I took the comment.

Yes, that is exactly what I meant!

Actually, the moment that Ronn was no longer working on contract and still under negotiations is the fault of the executive producer.

Yeah not sure how that part is not Brad's fault.

I think EnglishTea meant that the fact that he was able to walk away so abruptly is the EP's fault. They should've just decided he was leaving while he was still under contract so they could write a less disruptive exit. Part of negotiations should include contingency planning for what to do if they fall through. ("Either sign by X date or we'll start writing your exit story.") That's how I took the comment.

Well Ronn could have worked recurring while he was negoiating. He is the one who walked.

Ronn Moss was abysmal. He wasn't entertainingly terrible, he was just unwatchable. And his wife sounds nuts!

See, I thought he was entertainingly terrible.

Well Ronn could have worked recurring while he was negoiating. He is the one who walked.

Part of an executive producer's job is to be aware of when their contract players' contract are up. Typically, they should begin negotiations at the beginning of the last 13 week cycle, and if a new contract isn't reached prior to six weeks out, there should be a contingency plan in place.

Bell allowed that time to pass, and left the show at risk by then having Ronn work without a contract. The show contracts are always written in favor of the production company - they stem back to radio contracts. Bell made it possible for Ronn to walk out, and also created no story in case that happened.

That is on Bell, not Ronn.

Well Ronn could have worked recurring while he was negoiating. He is the one who walked.

Part of an executive producer's job is to be aware of when their contract players' contract are up. Typically, they should begin negotiations at the beginning of the last 13 week cycle, and if a new contract isn't reached prior to six weeks out, there should be a contingency plan in place.

Bell allowed that time to pass, and left the show at risk by then having Ronn work without a contract. The show contracts are always written in favor of the production company - they stem back to radio contracts. Bell made it possible for Ronn to walk out, and also created no story in case that happened.

That is on Bell, not Ronn.

Well Ronn could have worked recurring while he was negoiating. He is the one who walked.

An executive producer doesn't protect his product by letting one of his main actors work as recurring.

I just read Bell's tvguide interview...so maybe I can see a little more why she was pissed. Bell's going on and on about Kaye's "acting chops" and how it was exciting to write for Ridge, blah blah blah.

Yes, I still think she should have kept her mouth shut, and no, Moss was never going to be confused with Olivier (or Flannery for that matter) but Moss was Ridge for 20+ years, and the Ridge triangles did really lay the groundwork for a lot of B&B's success.

*gets popcorn and begins to read*

Thank you for all the insight into how B&B is run and what was some of the real reasoning behind last year's cast defections. I can see both sides of the argument, but one thing I never knew was that there are only two weeks between script and filming, which is very short. That probably allows Brad to pick up more quickly on what is and isn't working and jettison what he doesn't want, but I could also see how it gets to being costly. I never realized Bell was bad at managing the budget. I just assumed he was still in this job as HW and EP because he was good at keeping B&B profitable and able to do cheap exterior filming at various Bell homes and the roof of CBS in LA.