In regards to the tattoo story, I guess I was only invested due to Victor, but I also enjoyed the pace that Trevor's limited run forced the show to move at. Once he left and Roger's episodes started dwindling the story completely just died for me.

Speak for yourself. I really want legendary blah blah to die in an extremely painful way off screen mere moments after beginning his sexual relationship with Zach. Perhaps he's so filled with joy his heart explodes, and no one talks about it after two days.

Thanks for giving me that.

I haven't liked Bramwell and Celia at the center didn't work. But I LOVE the ideas of a gothic mystery and a girls' boarding school in PV, which could be a great way to bring on new and new-legacy characters. And I like what I've seen of Francesca James. Hopefully the execution gets better because I'm not ready to totally abandon the idea.

I don't think anyone is feeling the tattoo story anymore. Even if you were excited initially & a Victor/Todd fan, its just been puttering aimlessly since like early/mid June.

The tattoo story can still be redeemed, IMHO especially with Arturo connected, but it needs a lot of work and momentum to do so. I wonder if, though we are still seeing Racina's name on the credits, this was his baby (it seems his style==and seems like I was set to play out over a long period) and with him out they're at a bit of a loss.

The problem with Bramwell is we only see Celia's room. A gothic lobby or something with characters interacting there, would be great.

In regards to the tattoo story, I guess I was only invested due to Victor, but I also enjoyed the pace that Trevor's limited run forced the show to move at. Once he left and Roger's episodes started dwindling the story completely just died for me.

Agreed completely. I guess in a way we were fooled by that pace (I know a number of us wanted it to slow down a *bit*, but...)

Maybe bible carrying Angie can be so horrified by Jesse and Zack having sex that she shoots them both!! This story has so many potential beats to play out.

Edited August 2, 201312 yr by EricMontreal22

The tattoo story can still be redeemed, IMHO especially with Arturo connected, but it needs a lot of work and momentum to do so. I wonder if, though we are still seeing Racina's name on the credits, this was his baby (it seems his style==and seems like I was set to play out over a long period) and with him out they're at a bit of a loss.

The problem with Bramwell is we only see Celia's room. A gothic lobby or something with characters interacting there, would be great.

We saw the hallway outside Celia room didn't we? When Opal went over there running her mouth. We also got the (surprisingly devoid of humanity) exterior and grounds when Pete drove off with her.

The tattoo story can still be redeemed, IMHO especially with Arturo connected, but it needs a lot of work and momentum to do so. I wonder if, though we are still seeing Racina's name on the credits, this was his baby (it seems his style==and seems like I was set to play out over a long period) and with him out they're at a bit of a loss.

Oh I totally agree- I just meant I don't think anyone is excited about what's playing out currently where the whole story has taken place largely in Todd's hotel room for the past 4-5 weeks. I've really liked the addition of Arturo & want to see how he ties in. I think maybe the season format will help this story- they'll know if they have Roger, have Trevor etc. for the shooting period and the writers can write with a definite timeframe in mind.

We saw the hallway outside Celia room didn't we? When Opal went over there running her mouth. We also got the (surprisingly devoid of humanity) exterior and grounds when Pete drove off with her.

I loved the look of the building in that scene--and yes we did get a staircase/hallway I believe but I don't count that

If either AMC or OLTL did a male same sex relationship with two adult (not new characters who were over 25)...It would be interesting.

In defense of the tattoo story, it is about to get real fuckin' good, just in time for the hiatus. I think they can continue it very, very well in fall now that it's actually moving - without the Todds present.

Edited August 2, 201312 yr by Vee

I loved the look of the building in that scene--and yes we did get a staircase/hallway I believe but I don't count that

Certainly not a Pete/Celia fan but I loved that whole scene- him dressed as the chauffeur, the big sweeping grounds & the building, them speeding off & him throwing the hat. It was just a fun old school style scene.

OLTL

Add: A restaurant that is a bona fide restaurant and not a club. I like Shelter, but it's really silly that it is the hub of all activity no matter how inappropriate. I could just about buy it as a functioning restaurant/club, but hosting a gala in a nightclub is taking the piss. Llanview's rich would not socialize in a club to host a 'Man of the Year' awards.

Bring back Roxy and Brody. I think Natalie would benefit from both characters. Roxy would provide some comedy, and Brody would be a good adversary to Cutter, especially given their history.

Give Rama & Vimal an actual story. I love these characters, but I've been so disappointed with what little they have done. Rama has flirted with possible storylines, but they've not come to much of anything. Do more with the friendship between Natalie/Rama; I find the whole Natalie/Destiny friendship a little forced and odd.

Does no-one here like David & Dorian? I liked when they gave them some depth and explored their relationship issues. So, I think they work when toned down and given layered material that explores their characters.

Lose: David's reality show. Just produce and televise his damn show already, and move the character on.

Tattoo mystery. I liked this (and didn't mind that it took a dip in the middle), but I'm very disappointed that it's gone back to square one due to TSJ's and RH's schedules. What started out interesting and intriguing has weirdly made all the story progression since the first episode, kind of pointless. It no longer works without Victor and (or) Todd.

Dean Trager. OK, he's a recurring guest character at Shelter, who hasn't really done anything, but I don't like the possibility that he may be a love interest for Tea. Just no to that.

And to whomever said more Dusky, I disagree. She's not needed. Maybe pop up to perform from time-to-time, but she doesn't need any storyline. I think the show has enough recurring guest characters forming part of Shelter's crew: Nikki, Diego, Dean Trager, Bruce Hunter

Am I the only [!@#$%^&*] who stuck to the one for each rule?

Am I the only [!@#$%^&*] who stuck to the one for each rule?

Oh, I'm terrible at sticking to just one point, and always go off into a list. LOL

Plus, by the time I got through all 4 pages (getting derailed in the middle due to some random OT stuff), I had completely forgotten that I was supposed to list 1 per point.

Speak for yourself. I really want legendary blah blah to die in an extremely painful way off screen mere moments after beginning his sexual relationship with Zach. Perhaps he's so filled with joy his heart explodes, and no one talks about it after two days.

I love you for this in a way that is neither quantifiable nor healthy.

In defense of the tattoo story, it is about to get real fuckin' good, just in time for the hiatus. I think they can continue it very, very well in fall now that it's actually moving - without the Todds present.

Really? Trying to not look at spoilers to the finale but I trust your thoughts- that's exciting. It seems like the stopping point is going to be a really strong place to leave off- that's a good thing

No words. Just so much love for this.