Some official podcasts--radio shows etc are ok by me but these fan ones (and let's not fool ourselves--that's what they are) tend to be ENDLESS and so badly done. You don't have to just blather on. A regular podcast shouldNOT be over an hour (or even half an hour frankly) and some effort should be made into structure--don't just turn on the mic.

So I was away last week so missed GH but so little seems to have happened that I am not even gonna bother trying to catch up or read summaries.

So my only questions are I take it this lame Luke disease is something Helena injected him with? ANd I can't believe I even care, but did Britt ever get a paternity test or is that still endlessly going around and around.

So my only questions are I take it this lame Luke disease is something Helena injected him with? ANd I can't believe I even care, but did Britt ever get a paternity test or is that still endlessly going around and around.

She did. It showed Patrick is the father. Don't believe it.

The whole show's a real mess these days. And a lot of it had to do with them overhauling the entire show to try and make those three work, but it started with their refusing to wrap up some key preexisting GH stories. It reminds me a little of how apeshit OLTL went in 2010 and 2011, with the Fords, etc. Almost overnight the show would become both dramatically different and bad in whole new ways. GH with Franco, SIlas, etc. is the same.

Well said. While I admit my emotional investment in any of them is pretty low, thinkin about the show there are so many open storylines, lack of conclusion, little teased secrets (like what Taylor has over her brother though I'm sure that's obvious) that just get dropped for what seems like eons, while new characters and stories open up (if they aren't dropped completely.) And then the scenes we do get right now seem to be endlessly recycled--as others have said here, it seems like the new Quartermaines were rambling around in the QUartermaine living room the entire time I was away not watching, which honestly starts to feel a bit like the endless repetition on Passions. Michael is already so in love with Starr that he needs to get out of town to resist temptation?

She did. It showed Patrick is the father. Don't believe it.

Thanks. Yawn.

Agnes Nixon used to always quote the Charles Dickens (or was it WIlkie Collins) comment about serialized fiction--Make 'em laugh, make 'em cry and make 'em wait. Not that RC is currently doing much of this at all, but his idea of making them wait, IMHO, is just empty, useless badly done soap cliches. Seriously, do audiences even care that Patrick and crew are endlessly fooled?

Well, it's not just you. The show's in a very bizarre place at the moment, with several of the frontburner stories.

The truth is this didn't have to happen. I would've been for the crossovers for most of the characters, on a limited level - I think it would've been good for both shows for Todd to pop up on GH from time to time, for John to go back and forth or whatever, for Starr to visit home once in a while. But it seems as if GH can't have it all they don't want anything. Franco is a disaster, Silas is just sad and boring and somehow Kiki/Lauren is the least objectionable character, but that's just because she's nothing but Brunette Starr. This has only made things far worse for GH.

But it's far from just about them. The Patrick/Sabrina/Britt/etc. mess has utterly curdled post-Nurses Ball and they've become unwatchable and creepy. The Maxie/Spinelli/Ellie baby saga will never end. The Robin mess has officially gone on far too [!@#$%^&*] long. And Luke, Laura and Scott are basically dayplayers half the time. Then there's the teens, and Sonny, and Shawn and Alexis, and Morgan/Michael/Kiki.

The whole show's a real mess these days. And a lot of it had to do with them overhauling the entire show to try and make those three work, but it started with their refusing to wrap up some key preexisting GH stories. It reminds me a little of how apeshit OLTL went in 2010 and 2011, with the Fords, etc. Almost overnight the show would become both dramatically different and bad in whole new ways. GH with Franco, SIlas, etc. is the same.

Yes, yes, a million times yes to all of this.

So my only questions are I take it this lame Luke disease is something Helena injected him with? ANd I can't believe I even care, but did Britt ever get a paternity test or is that still endlessly going around and around.

Helena poisoned his earring.

If Ron Carlivati knew how to balance tone, if he knew how to write emotional beats, if his writing didn't have contempt for women and minorities, if he had any ability to create new characters, then they wouldn't need to rely on the exhaust fumes of Gloria Monty nostalgia and Brian Frons-era stubbled mannequins.

Yup. He misses pretty much every beat, or gets it backwards, or wrong. It's like we're told what's going on half the time instead of seeing it. We go weeks without seeing characters (his excuse is "rotating storylines"). And then the wrap up takes place off-screen and then weeks later characters return (I still can't get past Duke and Anna being gone for weeks after the Faison story wrapped). At least there was SOME emotional fall out for Anna but everyone knows what I mean.

And the scriptwriters are a mess. Awful dialogue. I'd also lay blame at the breakdown/script writers. The whole show is just a disaster.

Helena poisoned his earring.

LOL! What the Hell? I knew Luke should have gotten rid of that ugly thing years ago.

Some official podcasts--radio shows etc are ok by me but these fan ones (and let's not fool ourselves--that's what they are) tend to be ENDLESS and so badly done. You don't have to just blather on. A regular podcast shouldNOT be over an hour (or even half an hour frankly) and some effort should be made into structure--don't just turn on the mic.

So I was away last week so missed GH but so little seems to have happened that I am not even gonna bother trying to catch up or read summaries.

True. Some podcasts aren't awful. I probably could have specified but yeah to what you said.

I wouldn't bother to watch. There's always clips on YouTube (you aren't blocked from watching YouTube right? Sorry if that's a dumb question but I know video is sometimes restricted by region of course, Canada/US, etc.). I was catching up that way for a little bit until I started to make an effort to watch again since I've been home during the time GH is on.

Edited July 3, 201312 yr by KMan101

As with OLTL, the idea from "Cartini" is likely that people are watching for them, not the show itself. Or that is probably Ron's idea, anyway. He's been told he's awesome for six years running, that he saved daytime, that only he could write OLTL, that he is the new Doug Marland, Agnes Nixon, et al.

As with OLTL, the show basically stumbles forward, half-drunk, between one poorly acted and loud stunt to another. Those stunts will be grasped at as the best ever in soap opera, while the bad patches are ignored or dismissed as hey, someone else was worse, somewhere.

They're very lucky, because a lot of vocal people would watch Roger Howarth sing the Jem theme song for an entire 35 minutes a day. You will see more and more talk about how Franco isn't so bad, and isn't he so hot and funny and crazy, and so on. Just as when Michael Easton bothers to make a facial expression, you'll hear about how wonderful this is. The material itself is an afterthought, to many fans, to the actors, and to the writers and producers. You are basically watching the last few years of the Little Rascals shorts, where most of the kids had no idea what they were doing and the few who did looked like they were being held hostage.

If Ron Carlivati knew how to balance tone, if he knew how to write emotional beats, if his writing didn't have contempt for women and minorities, if he had any ability to create new characters, then they wouldn't need to rely on the exhaust fumes of Gloria Monty nostalgia and Brian Frons-era stubbled mannequins.

Your write ups are just a thing of beauty

The CarSon scenes were really good! Well done on all levels! I love Mo/Sonny and LW/Carly together as non lovers. They really fit.

FF FrankenTodd and Ava. Nothing of interest at all!

How much you willing to bet, Tracy decides to camp out at TMC in Luke's room and not return to what used to be The Q Mansion? That will be her reason for not being seen at the mansion while Monica never gets any screen time as it is.

I don't give 2 sh!ts about Connie and can't wait for her to be gone, but Liv is bogus as hell to move in with Sonny! Bogus as hell!

Helena poisoned Luke with polonium, the same radiation that was killing Jerry Jacks last fall. Jerry had been ransoming Port Charles in order to acquire funds to pay someone for a cure - judging by his survival and subsequent involvement in the abduction of Robin, it seems clear that "someone" was Helena, who was (and probably still is - Helena never dies) apparently using Jerry as a minion or mercenary. Luke and Anna discovered the report on Jerry and his radiation poisoning in the WSB files, and when Luke discovered someone had collected on Jerry's ransom despite his supposed death, he decided he's going to go and try to track Jerry down in order to find a cure.

On its own, that is actually a perfectly fine way to tie two big stories together - and while goofy, the whole radiation poisoning gambit from Helena is classic GH. The problem is that the Robin storyline has been limping along for well over a year with no end in sight, and there's a whole lot of other crazy [!@#$%^&*] on this show.

I think we've now had 3 or 4 days in a row with Franco and Ava in the Quartermaine mansion, which is just amazing.

Edited July 3, 201312 yr by Vee

I think we've now had 3 or 4 days in a row with Franco and Ava in the Quartermaine mansion, which is just amazing.

What's even more amazing is how they get at least 10 minute of airtime each time they're on while everyone else gets 3-5 minutes.

I think some podcasts are good and others are not. For me the length isn't an issue depending on the amount of topics discussed. If you are talking about one show, a 30 minute weekly show may be excessive, but if you discuss the four shows on television, plus AMC and OLTL that would be devoting less than 5 minutes on each show once you get through the introductions.

The thing that gets me about the stuff in the Q mansion is that the people in the mansion haven't earned it yet.