I wish they gave a location to where Jake/Amanda and Joe/Ruth moved. Seattle always seems to be the Agnes Nixon default.

Joe and Ruth moved to Florida a year before the show went off the air when he went into retirement. They only made a few visits back to PV. I presume that's where they still are.

I wish all the shots in the opening were like Opal's. The screen looks balanced, not crowded. I like the little candid shot. I hope they clean that thing up. So far it looks like a poor fan project (and I know poor fan projects).

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Do you know if the writers are writing for demos or total viewers? At one time didn't soap writers focus on Total Viewers and the strongest Demos determined the add's? Also, will Toups report the ratings with the network ratings? It would be funny if they were higher than Y&R!! How much is nielson involved?

Also, I thought you were 40!! Didn't know you were in my age group!!!

S.I.T!

True and I love the irony! I wonder if AJ knows the history with those three? Oh and I can't wait for JR to get in the mix for the circle of irony (and jealousy, resentment and regret) to be complete.

ETA: Was Kathy raised in the Chandler Mansion too?

No! She was Tad's kid. She was raised by Tad and Krystal in the final years of AMC in his home. Prior to that, she was in Julia's care over in Wildwind

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I was also very disappointed to learn Errol was (slightly) younger than me. I always believed he was older.

Joe and Ruth moved to Florida a year before the show went off the air when he went into retirement. They only made a few visits back to PV. I presume that's where they still are.

Cheap, I thought in the finale Joe/ Ruth revealed that they were moving back to Pine Valley full time. I guess the shooting changed those plans?

So sad to think that the original Martin home is no longer in the family. I wish Jake or Tad would have moved into it. I think the last time we saw the set was when Tad was shot, and had dreams about what his life would have been had Dixie not "died" in Switzerland. it looked like Tad/Dixie would have moved into Kate's home to grow old after raising baby Kate.

I just noticed. Does anyone else find it a little strange how the AMC/OLTL facebook pages with 500k+ fans haven't posted direct links to the episodes on Hulu? I mean...shouldn't they do that? LOL

Or maybe they just want to avoid the "How do I press play?" etc, etc comments...

I was also wondering why they haven't done this easy move.

Well, there's an "island," and there are people having intimate interactions with others. Clearly, from day one, everyone is still feeling some kind of effect from what happened five years ago at the party. However -- and no shade to OLTL but only to use it as an example -- do we really need to see everyone at a club? Do we really need to see everyone at the hospital fretting over a girl who overdosed? It's about reestablishing Pine Valley and everyone who lives there. Sometimes, their lives don't intersect and overlap. In our own lives we live next door to people and our lives don't cross over any more than a "Good morning!" or "Let me help you with that bag..." type of way -- when there could've been one hell of a story leading up to those interactions. That's life. My belief is that All My Children had gotten to a point where it had been focused too much on EVENTS rather than character driven drama.

Angie, for example. We're establishing that she's happy. We're establishing that she misses her children. We're establishing that she feels she's come through so much and is now in a safe place... only to make the realization that her daughter has been kidnapped even MORE heartwreching when we see her learn this. This is how you, ideally, develop a character based story and reaction. We're supposed to see this woman smiling and talking to a friend and colleague with joy and happiness and feel "but what she doesn't know is about to sneak up on her..." And she can't do that if she's busy in other stories.

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Cheap, I thought in the finale Joe/ Ruth revealed that they were moving back to Pine Valley full time. I guess the shooting changed those plans?

So sad to think that the original Martin home is no longer in the family. I wish Jake or Tad would have moved into it. I think the last time we saw the set was when Tad was shot, and had dreams about what his life would have been had Dixie not "died" in Switzerland. it looked like Tad/Dixie would have moved into Kate's home to grow old after raising baby Kate.

I don't remember that but even if that was the case, you bring up a good point in why they would change their plans. If Tad died, then that would be reason to not want to be burdened by the bad memories

Wow, the Chandler house is packed. Adam, Brooke, AJ, Dixie... was Tad living there before he left town too (I am convinced he is not dead). Perhaps even Bianca, Miranda, Gabby (just based on the first episode scenes)... I guess it's called a mansion for a reason. I know that if I lived through a murder, I would have moved out and torn down that house to its foundation.

I am intrigued about Celia's guardian. I do hope that it is a person from Pine Valley's past. I was really hoping that Evelyn was going to turn out to be Kelly Cole too, but that is looking unlikely. I don't know why they couldn't just have Kelly play the role of headmistress. She has bene off canvas for long enough, and I thought that in one of her 80's appearences (when Brooke stays with her to get away from Tom) that she mentioned being a librarian.

I wish they gave a location to where Jake/Amanda and Joe/Ruth moved. Seattle always seems to be the Agnes Nixon default.

I am running on the assumption that Marissa is dead. But why would Marissa's deat effect Brooke, Dixie, and Ruth so badly that they are having nightmares/ do not want to be in Pine Valley anymore. I am so worried that they killed off Jamie Martin. OMG, I hope the writers did not kill off a double legacy (a Martin and Tyler) character fresh off the bat! Especially one that is so easily recastable, and has so much potential in terms of storyline.

Have we done an inventory or who we know is alive/ the potential victims? Based on what I am seeing/reading?

Safe: Jesse, Angie, Natalia, Frankie, Amanda, Jake, Joe, Ruth, Dixie, Adam, Brooke, Colby, Zach, Kendlal, Griff, Cara, David, JR, Bianca, Opal, I am also putting Erica/Jack on this list

Potential Victims: Marissa (I think the writing is on the wall with this one), Scott, Madison, Randi, Brot, Greenlee, Ryan, Liza, Krystal, Tad, Jamie

Has it actually been established that Dixie is living there as well? If so, Adam, Brooke, Dixie, AJ and JR as a family unit is just too delicious.

I don't remember that but even if that was the case, you bring up a good point in why they would change their plans. If Tad died, then that would be reason to not want to be burdened by the bad memories

I hope that it was not a Martin victim at the shooting, but it seems like this is the case. I cannot see Ruth being torn up about Marissa's death... she barely knew the girl after all. Tad or Jamie on the other hand, that would keep Ruth away.

I am so scared that they killed off Jamie.

I don't remember that but even if that was the case, you bring up a good point in why they would change their plans. If Tad died, then that would be reason to not want to be burdened by the bad memories

He was supposedly coming back to help as interim Chief at the hospital, but it sounds like in the five years since, he now consults.

Has it actually been established that Dixie is living there as well? If so, Adam, Brooke, Dixie, AJ and JR as a family unit is just too delicious.

Not sure.. I thought Dixie was living there at the time of the finale already to support JR. I guess when the house went up for sale, it was anyones guess about where she ended up as she and Tad were only rebuilding their relationship.

Yes, Adam, Dixie, and Brooke in house again... after all the years, after Adam went wing to wing trying to keep his affair with the nanny secret from his mourning wife. I know Brooke and Dixie have come a long way since then. Since Tad's death in 91, since Jamie's birth when Brooke asked Dixie to be the godmother, or the decade of co-parenting JR/Jamie. I guess this is the best part of soap opera, the opportunity for history to come full circle in real time.

I love the casting of AJ. I love his interaction with all the cast thus far. I hope that we get some more AJ/Adam scenes and AJ/Dixie scenes. Can you believe someone will be calling Dixie "grandma"? I guess she was young when she had JR, but Cady still looks way too young to be Grandma.

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I just realized this show has no lawyer. Plenty of doctors (5), yet no lawyers. I really want Liza to return and be the token lawyer

I just realized this show has no lawyer. Plenty of doctors (5), yet no lawyers. I really want Liza to return and be the token lawyer

I wouldn't mind Liza, even Jamie Luner, back on the canvas. If she does come back, I would also love her back in Adam's orbit. Imagine Julia Barr and Jamie Luner going at it over Adam? Maybe it will make Luner's Liza more "Liza" like. I had a hard time connecting with her (both because of the writing and Luner's early portrayal).

Other potential town attornies: Jack Montgomery, Belinda Keefer (how fun would this be?! she is a familiar character and kind of a blank slate), Livia Cudahy (can't see them asking Tonya because of her set side antics)