Jump to content

TNT revived Dallas why can't it revive ATWT and GL??


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 70
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

What is it with this new obsession that everyone wants their favorite canceled soap to be revived. As much as I loved Santa Barbara, it is over. I want to see new soaps. A few revivals are ok, and it has to be done with the right shows. A new Dallas made sense, it was a mega hit in the 80's, and it is going a great job mixing the old vets with the new generation, if the writers didn't do that, we wouldn't be talking about it because it would have been canceled after a few episodes.

It doesn't seen right to label AMC and OLTL as revivals. As Prospect Park made the deal with ABC to continue the existing shows when they were still on the air, the original intention was to premiere AMC four months after it ended on ABC and OLTL the following monday after its ABC finale. Had that happened it would have been labeled simply a transition from t.v. to internet. They needed more time and so now it is labeled a revival. There is a big difference of having a production company interested in these soaps right when ABC canceled them and having someone come along and want to bring back soaps that have been gone for years, thats not going to happen, and I don't want it to either. There is nothing wrong with new soaps, maybe there is a great idea waiting to wow us and rise to the top of the ratings and truly revive the genre. Looking to the past won't save the genre, rather new ideas and new soaps will be what continues the genre into the 21st Century.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Right about now I am feeling this and this is coming from someone who FLOVES ATWT & GL. They were my two shows (along with AW). I don't see P&G doing a revival anytime soon. I don't see anyone shelling out the rights to these shows anytime soon. And if these shows were brought back, I don't see them being edgy like AMC & OLTL might be upon their revivals (which will make them sell to future audiences b/c sex sells. . .closedeyes.jpg ) b/c P&G is VERY conservativeangry.png .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

YES. I've been saying this since ATWT was canceled. Their TV movies are usually well-done and well-received. They could do like two movies a year for each soap, only have two or three storylines in each movie, make the movies mainly self-contained, but also leave those hanging lines for the next movie, feature only some of the cast in each one, etc. It could freaking work.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

That's a great point some made regarding that the emphasis should be on new soaps over revivals of dead ones. But--and this isn't going to be popular--the production companies (in part) want to pander to and profit off of disgruntled and depressed fans of the cancelled soaps. This wouldn't be possible if a new soap was created. Furthermore, a new soap would have far less name recognition than even a cancelled soap has.

Therefore, executives will probably believe that it is much better business to revive a dead soap, although I have strong doubts if it is in the best interest of the genre (or even in the best interest of the shows being revived). If the revivals of AMC and OLTL turn out to be huge successes, I will apologize for being wrong.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • I can not see Kat as a police officer and do not want that for her. Thats not her passion nor does she care about that stuff. The stuff with Eva and Leslie is specific to her life and wanting to protect her family. Her "detective" skills have more to do with her business background, which makes her very analytical and pay close attention to details. If this show had a corporation, she'd make a shrewed businesswoman and CEO  
    • I would make Jan, Ashley's mom, Anita and Vernon's maid. It would lock in to why Leslie would choose to befriend both her and Mona. It also gives Ashley a connection to the Duprees and explains how she befriended Naomi. I would have had Derek start the show as a cop to explain his connection to Jacob. Kat needs to realize that she is MADE to be a detective. Have her go through police training, making the appropriate comments about the uniform along the way. Have her prove she is so much more than a rich princess, even to herself. Then, when Jacob's partner is proven to be dirty, Kat is assigned as Jacob's rookie trainee. At the same time, Naomi does finally get a case she can follow through on. Her client is a person that Jacob arrested. This puts them at odds because Jacob knows this person did it, as does Kat, but Naomi only sees the extenuating circumstances and believes he deserves a lighter sentence and a second chance. THAT is when Jacob will turn to Kat in frustration and she will lose her virginity to him. 
    • This opened my eyes and appeals to my logic. But, don't you also think that the fact that they are so ill-suited means that, by soap-opera-laws, they aren't a long term item?  I like how Belle is written now, so I appreciate the fact that she is in this story.  But, I don't believe anything will become of it, and I think EJ is going to mess it up very soon.  Which explains why I don't get too worked up over it. I'm also suspending my outrage until I see how EJ treats Belle during her mourning.  If he cheats with Cat, then we'll know that he was never meant to be happy.
    • Kristen also raped John post-Paris with a Magic Mirror.  Her pregnancy was "delicate" and they couldn't be intimate.  She had already lost the baby, needed to get pregnant immediately again and set a Stefano tricked out Magic Mirror to hypnotize John and John thought he was  having sex with Marlena.  John woke up the next day and thought it was a dream.
    • The show is only a few months in and still finding it's footing. I'm hoping MVJ has years of story in place for these characters and will pretty much stick to that plan (obviously with tweaking along the way) I do have some issues with the initial structure. Making the Duprees the centerpiece and not having a male with that name. Making Martin Vernon and Anita's would have solved that and made the age of the character more appropriate. I agree about not having a young couple in the beginnings of a romance. And having too many married couples. Jacob and Naomi could be just living together. That makes the possibility of other relationships more viable than within a marriage. Same with Smitty/Martin. Having them married with kids limits the story especially in terms of them as a gay couple.  The white characters existing in another universe is also a problem. That ties in with the workplace/job issues. I don't think they needed the hospital-instead the police station/real estate office or Martin's workplace could have utilized and have Derek/Ashley/Vanessa/Smitty/Shanice etc working and interacting there. ATM too many characters are meeting up in cafes etc-we're not seeing them at work. We needed to see more of how various characters interact eg Jacob/Bill, Ted/Bill. There were a lot of extended family scenes but there should be more one on one to get a sense of character and family dynamics. Leslie is a great character but her bag of tricks is getting over exposed. I would hate that she is kept on and other character's made to look like idiots by accepting her presence. They'll need some good writing and twists to keep her around. We can only hope some of the lesser actors improve as I don't want too many recasts or writeouts. So it's early days and I look forward to seeing the show evolve. And give the Duprees some staff!
    • Thanks. I barely remember any of the backstory there, just his ties to her parents. It was all so convoluted, everything with Tangie.
    • 81 and 82 were rather bad, with the infamous invasion of the Kirkland family. But sometime in late 82 or early 83, Claire Labine was rehired as head-writer and immediately put the focus back on the Ryan's. This time Labine's tenure was short, but she did great work. The entire show was compelling again -- especially the Charlotte Greer storyline (one of the best plots of the entire series).  But Labine was fired, yet again, and Ryan's Bar was bombed, resulting in most of the action being transferred to Greenberg's Deli, and a focus on younger characters with little connection to the Ryan family. So that is what you are probably seeing from 84.   
    • It wasn't that altruistic. He made Tangie a substitute for Blake and was apparently so creepy about it that Tangie spent the years in between getting away from him and running into him in Springfield believing that he had purchased her to be his child bride. It was only when she got to know Blake that she realized that she realized his feelings for her were paternal and suddenly she and Roger became friends.
    • When I watched 1999 Daytime Emmys in real time, I was like "Daytime Emmys will never top this" and that's exactly what happened (at least IMO).
    • Yes in Sami's case lots of people took issue with her being with Dumbell Austin outside of the Carrie issue, cause she drugged him and raped him by pretending to be Carrie. Austin didn't consent & well Ejami fans have used that as a smokescreen against the backlash of Sami & EJ being paired. It's also not so much as being paired with someone period, but paired with his victim & his victim sister. That's a line that should never be crossed by Belle/EJ esp Belle cause Sami isn't the only person in her family that EJ has terrorized. For all points and purposes since she was aged to a teen, Belle has been a daddy's girl so on top of the betrayal when it comes to Sami it's also with John. He ran him down & murdered him after raping her sister. On top of all the other evil [!@#$%^&*] he has done. "Good dick", ONS with a monster one time is one thing we all have lapses of judgements, it's whole different thing to be a whole bird who throws her self respect out the window for a roll in the hay relationship with a monster & act like you have selective amnesia about his many crimes towards your family. While getting on your self righteous hoiler than thou horse about others. No there wouldn't be as much as outrage if he was paired with someone like his equally rapey Black family terrorizing sister, or Ava, Gabi or even Nicole. So it's not as much as about him being paired with someone period, it's more of who he should never be paired with his rape victim, her sister's or anyone in the family of the man he viciously ran down. I don't expect much of anything from EJ but I expect a lot more from Belle. As far as Kristen goes Brady has been called everything but the word of God rightfully so for being with his rapist, his brothers rapist, the psycho who terrorized his parents for decades, family, the woman he claimed to love after she violated her by using a mask of her face

      Please register in order to view this content

      to pretend to be her so he would sleep with her. Drugging his sister ie,: Sami. If Kristen was paired with someone that wasn't her victim or victims like Alex, Xander, [!@#$%^&*] even Ben no one would really care for the most part. So I hope this gives you a little insight and I hope you know I wasn't trying to be rude.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy