Tyler Perry's 'Haves and Have Nots' on OWN

[ChitHappens]

The only problem I had about the help was the way they were spoken to. Gave me a "Roots" feel. Tyler needs to dial that down because I don't think that's appropriate in 2013 (not that it ever was).

The lighting for the house makes it look really weird. They may want to work on that.

[NothinButAttitude]

Oh yaasss! What a fine creature!

[London]

I love you B... it's cool... I'll do it in secret!

Also, I'm going to need ya'll to stop trying to make me go into cardiac arrest... show some mercy ok?

[P.J.]

WHY is Crystal Fox in that hideous wig? Is there some rule "maid hair" has to be fugly, and "bible class hair" is cute and snappy?

[London]

Petition for O to drop TP... curious?

http://www.change.org/petitions/oprah-winfrey-network-remove-tyler-perry-entertainment-from-own

[EricMontreal22]

This hasn't aired on Canadian OWN for some reason, so I can't comment, and it sounds like several people here who don't usually like Perry's stuff are enjoying this so far--though I can't help but think the moralizing will come soon just like it does with all of his melodramas--but is Perry credited as director and writer on every episode as Wiki says? Does he really write and direct so much of his work and not just have a factory of writers hiding under his name the way, say, the "authors" of The Hardy Boys or Sweet Valley High had?

[Faulkner]

OY. I cringed at that bit of dialogue. Not even Tika could make that work.

[Lskreet]

I guess I'm in the minority because I didn't like it. I thought the writing was horrible. Tika did a good job with what they gave her. I don't get why Candice has to use sex as a weapon. She's smart and in law school there are plenty of other ways for her to get back at the rich folk. Her character reminded me of Sanaa Lathan's in "The Family That Preys" angry and bitter for no reason.

[EricMontreal22]

Because this is the way Perry writes women. Witness Tyler Perry's Temptation.

[P.J.]

Yeah, I wasn't impressed with much of it. I'm not overly familiar with Tyler Perry's programs, but it makes the acting on Dallas 2.0 look like the Royal Shakespeare Company. And visually, I haven't seen anything look as bad since the horrible travesty of SMG's Ringer. I don't understand how you go from the opening shot of an impressive estate to the dark, painted-over-plywood looking sets.

[EricMontreal22]

Ah I loved how cheap Ringer looked. LOL

[Chris B]

I thought Ringer was very stylish. I loved everything about Ringer.

[P.J.]

Everything SMG wore made her look 3'10''.

[Eric83]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/05/29/tyler-perrys-the-haves-and-the-have-nots-is-owns-highest-rated-series-premiere-in-network-history-garnering-1-77-million-total-viewers/184889/

[Soaplovers]

Ringer had a 50's film noir look to it... very dark and cold. I'm not sure quite what Tyler Perry has in mind for The Haves and the Have Nots. I wish someone other then Oprah would interview him and ask him what his intentions are for this particular show.. and why he has such stark views of good and evil..