Big Brother 15: Discussion Thread

[juppiter]

Elissa did NOT vote for Andy, Angela.

He was fine to go to the end with 3AM which was not a winning game plan for him. Until someone switched it up FOR him he was playing for fourth. Pathetic.

ELISSA IS DEAD TO ME.

[Angela]

You'll forgive and forget by the morning ;b She practically spelled out A-N-D-Y during her vote speech. She ain't subtle.

[Cheap21]

Go Elissa! She winning the final prize almost made up for this travesty of a show

[Angela]

So happy. Julie should have added "it wasn't even close" but they did Top 3 to rub it in to the more hateful HG's so I see why not.

Kaitlin cracks me up. She ran to Elissa and Candice and Jessie after they were allowed to get up and practically humped each. Smart girl.

[DRW50]

I laughed when Jeremy, who was for some reason asked a question, decided to call Helen (who was terrible about him and at one point I believe said he must have been abused as a child) out for her fakeness. Helen was NOT happy. I, on the other hand, was very happy.

Andy deserved to win. I think if he'd handled Judd better it would have been 8-1, but who cares really.

I'm glad they weren't too bitter, and I'm glad they didn't delve too heavily into who was fired. I think it's tacky and cheap. The houseguests find out soon enough.

I wanted Candice to be in the top 3, not Howard, but it doesn't matter since Elissa was the clear winner. I'm glad Judd was in there.

Andy's personality is so irksome that his good gameplay these last weeks will be ignored or forgotten. He brought that on himself, but I hope future players will still try to take away some of the good moves he did and ignore the trash talk and whining.

[Angela]

I would have preferred Candice over Judd or Howard, but you could see from all the online polls it was 45-65% Elissa, 15-25% Judd, then Howard with like 5-10% and everybody else had 2% or less of the votes.

My favorite moments of the night besides Elissa getting AFHG were...

Julie shading Spencer (after letting the HG know they made national headlines for being so nasty), and, YEAH, Jeremy going in on Helen, lol.

They delayed Jeff's backyard interviews until 11:45. Maybe they're informing HG of job losses and police investigations.

[Angela]

Will shading Aaryn and Candice's newfound friendship was also golden, "Did you let her make your bed?"

ETA:

I wonder if Helen got into Elissa's ear about the vote. Elissa seemed set on GM. You can't underestimate Helen's influence on Elissa, I guess. I mean it was kind of a lose/lose for Elissa in an after the fact sense (what she'll find out). One called her son an idiot and the other called her son a Puerto Rican dirty dirtbag or whatever that was (not to mention the crap they've said about her and other members of her family and her fans; Andy MUCH more so than GM).

[Angela]

So far...

David calls Aaryn a dirty bird (flirting with him; wanting Jeremy; making out with Judd). Mentioned that she was already treating him poorly before his eviction, etc. He'd have a ONS with her but that's all he thinks she's good for. (Yikes) Jeff gives David an ocean scented candle.

Jeremy on him being a bully? "I have one word for you: Amanda." Jeff adds "so you took the silver?" He's obviously thrilled Amanda took some of the bully shine off of him. Jeff gave him a Barbie.

Nick is trying to convince Jeff that he and GM have a real connection. It happened whenever the fishes were on according to Nick. Nick said Andy played the best game for the people and strategies that were in the house. He pretty much adds that the general game play wasn't very good and that it was an overall bad season to watch. The one thing he would have changed about his game is basically that he would have played the game with Elissa. Jeff gave Nick a chain and lock (GM).

Kaitlin. She gives a "we'll see where it goes" answer about her and Jeremy. He ask did her perspective change (who she was rooting for) after getting out of the house and being able to watch what was going on. She said yeah, her impression of Elissa totally changed and she wanted her and Judd to make it to the F2. She was rooting for GM in the F2 though and she's happy for Andy but didn't want him to win. Kaitlin says she wouldn't have said the things she said and she also says she would have aligned with Elissa, if she could go back and change things. Jeff/Kait discuss Elissa coming on strong around OTEV time. Jeff thinks the 2 girls would have kicked a-- as a team. She feels bad for the way Elissa has been treated in the house and feels bad that she was part of it. She seems kind of eager for the other HG to get into the real world and turn off the fantasy.

Howard is all peace and love. Wishes well for his other HG. They were talking about dollar store Bibles for some reason. Very short interview. I think he gave him a dollar store Bible.

Jessie has no regrets. Jessie is being all hard about her fierce game. Jeff is kind of like your game wasn't really in your face until your final week, lol. She's all "ouch." She said she couldn't get a solid partner no matter how hard she tried. Jeff is like "by hooking up with dudes?" Geez, Jeff. Jessie throws Jeff & Jordan in Jeff's face. Feisty interview. She said she's good with everybody. She revealed that Amanda and Elissa got into it at the jury house. She adds that she spent a lot of time reading at the jury house and kind of contradicts her earlier statement about being good with everybody. She also reveals all the girls had a bikini party one night and chatted about how the cameras were at the wrong house. Jeff brings up Jessie being unemployed. Sigh, lol. He gives her a flashlight.

Candice. Interviews keep breaking up. She said she's not a starter but she's a finisher in terms of the confrontations in the house. She says the game was everything she expected except, of course, for the personal stuff. She said she had Howie, Helen and Elissa and that really helped. She thinks BB has thought her to be forgiving and understanding. Candice believes Aaryn has changed. She believes she's a product of the environment she was raised in: ignorant and young but not racist. (I agree; IMO, GM is racist; Aaryn is more so a sheltered young woman who only knows what she grew up with OR what she didn't grow up with). She made Aaryn watch a movie at the Jury House during Movie Night that helped her a lot, lol. Aaryn's mind seemed to be blown by it. I wonder what the movie was? Candice throws GM under the bus for the "mom" comment. She says she's happy widdle Andy won and that he didn't play a PERSONAL game. (Yeah, not to their faces, I guess). Jeff gives Candice some clown junk from the dollar store and they bond over clown/BB issues.

Judd. Why did you give up on the puzzle? "It was strategy; Andy winning over McCrae was my best shot." Where was Judd the Party Dude? "There wasn't enough alcohol." Making out with two chicks? "I'm 26, having fun." Jeff tells Judd he was one of the least offensive HG, more or less. He would have not worked so close with Amanda and McCrae if he could change his game. He would have worked with guys like David, Nick, etc. The McCrae PoV crazy speech? He thought it was his best shot. Jeff gives Judd some shorts.

McCrae. McCrae said Jeff telling him he was rooting for him before coming into the house got him through the summer. Jeff is yeah, you were like "I like Amanda, but it's Jeff for me..." McCrae insists that Amanda was good for his game. Amanda calls McCrae "the Jordan" of their relationship. McCrae thinks he's the mastermind of their relationship though. McCrae plans on going back to delivering pizzas. He's thinking about going to Florida (Amanda) to escape the cold winters. His favorite moment of the season was winning the PoV where Ian was the host. He wouldn't have changed anything about his game, he liked using Amanda as the bullseye. McCrae said he should have gone with his gut with Andy & Elissa. He wanted to put Andy up in his gut but he was over-thinking it and he thought Andy wanted to get McCrae to himself minus Amanda. He says the Exterminators were doing a good job of f--kin with him and El during the DE. He does wish she would have gone harder at him because there was definitely a chance she could have changed his mind.

Jeff: Your game was great:

Helen: Aww...

Jeff: I'm pulling a Helen.

She doesn't get that was not actually a top notch compliment. They discuss Helen's HOHitis. Helen rants about Jeremy, again, lol. Best move? Aligning with Elissa. She thinks if she had stayed in the game her and El could have gotten to the end. (Pfft, Helen you sinked everybody's game). Helen brags about being good friends with AFHG and the BB15 winner. Says she's got good whatever... (Uhm, STFU Helen. Whenever she talks, I can't help saying that.) Everybody is the game is strong. Great players, etc. "I like to kill people with kindness," in response to the racism. He gives Helen a huge pen that says "I'm #1."

Aaryn. Life after the game (the booing, the jury house)? "Shocking. Shocked. Overwhelmed. I regret the Texas comment." She claims she and Candice were the absolute bestest besties in the jury house. Aaryn says the bed flipping had nothing to do with race. She was mad at Candice for 100 different things. Girl is still denying her racist-speak on every level. Sigh. Aaryn is surprised the Judd/Aaryn stuff got airtime. Jeff gives Aaryn a huge eraser that says "My Bad." Aaryn said she'd do BB again.

Amanda. "I wasn't bullying... I'm a strong woman. I say things to peoples face. I'm honest." Jeff asks do you think saying you had sex with somebody of a race you've just offended somehow makes it better? She says, "no" and apologizes if anybody was offended. She'd also do BB again. Jeff admits, bad or even worst, [Amanda] was fun to watch; her DR's were great. Amanda is "harassing" Jeff. Jeff asks Amanda about meeting McCrae's parents and she's shocked silent for a moment. Jeff gives Amanda mini-bowling/bullying pins.

[~bl~]

It looks like the person who is telling the jury people about the job losses is from Entertainment Tonight online. Jarett Wieselman ‏@JarettSays

10m

Apparently I'm the first reporter to tell many of the jurors about all the firings ... I wish you could see their faces

[DRW50]

David is a piece of [!@#$%^&*].

Looks like Candice has forgiven Aaryn. I think she's going to be far more hurt by comments from people she thought were her friends (Andy) said.

I wish we'd seen that Amanda/Elissa fight.

[Angela]

I wish we could see their faces too. Why didn't he bring a cameraman?

Updating the Jeff interviews still. Only Amanda, Elissa, Gina, and Andy left to interview. Get on with it Jeff. I want to sleep.

[Jonathan]

My goodness. Dr. Will's face is way too flawless. He's got the skin of a Ken doll.

[DaytimeFan]

Lasers. Lots of them. And good ones. And sunscreen. Lots of it.

[Angela]

Spencer apologizes if he offended anybody with his language and such. Says Andy and GM had a close bond that I guess only Spencer was aware of. He wasn't surprised. They discuss how good Spencer was at being on the block. Jeff gives Spencer a bottle of something.

Elissa's interview appeared to happen right after Candice's. My feed was breaking up a lot around then and missed it. From recaps... Game play? Jeff pretty much told her she wasn't doing anything in the game for a while but then he was rooting for her to win the whole thing when her switch flipped around OTEV time. He lets her know she's very well liked outside of the house. She said she'll keep in touch with Candice and Helen. She adds Andy too - because he didn't take things to a personal level. Sigh. I wish there was somebody doing interviews that would throw people UTB. Jeff gives Elissa fake eye lashes.

GM apologizes if she "defended" anybody. NY, NJ shout outs. I think she also blames the states for her tude. Brags about putting McCranda up.

Andy brags about his game and takes credit for things he played little to no part in as usual. He said he's heard about HG saying really offensive things and racist things; he claims he doesn't condone that type of behavior and would never participate in it. Sigh. Jeff gives Andy baby clothes.

BB3 Danielle Reyes is doing her best to stir the pot between Andy/El and Aa/Candice on Twitter. She seems irritated neither A is owning their s--t. Aa and her 2 publicist brushed off her job loss as nothing. She has "6 offers waiting for her." She told a reporter her comments were taken out of context. She plans on writing a book, etc.

[KMan101]

I love how they're all still in denial and no reporter (sorry I like Jeff but he isn't a reporter because CBS hired him to host an internet show) wants to give them the real truth. He sounds like he's being way too nice (of course).

Thanks for all the recapping Angela!

I wish the cameras would follow them as they watch the show and we get their reactions. Heh.