Agreed. I dont hate her but not impressed. Her constant breaking up with Spinelli, only to get back together, only to break up again is HIGHLY annoying. I also hate how clueless and naive she is. She shouldnt be living with Maxie and she shouldnt be acting like they could be BFFs. They write her like a cartoon and she's too old for this. Plus she's too sugary sweet and sappy and doesnt seem to have much substance beyond that

That's a writing issue, but it's not exclusive to Ellie. The actress has loads of potential, but she's toast in frog boy's orbit.

That's a writing issue, but it's not exclusive to Ellie. The actress has loads of potential, but she's toast in frog boy's orbit.

She's a new character and this writing is what defines the character. Its not like she's already established and they are switching her up for the plot. This is who Ellie is and those are the reasons why I dont care for her

Count me among the Ellie haters. She outlived her dayplayer lab tech usefulness three and a half months ago.

When I saw Staff for Starr, I thought of Staph as in Staph Infection. Why do I think that would be a funny anti-nickname for Starr.

RS, that signature is :)

RS, that signature is

Thanks, An. I figured if I'm gonna ease my way back into this SON insanity, might as well put up a new one, since the other one was a year old. Monica's stating exactly what I feel I need to do to witness some of his writing.

I wish they'd knock her off the wagon again. They probably don't even know she's an alcoholic.

I've always actually kind of wanted a Maxie/Michael pairing.

I want her with AJ! That could be HOT!

Except Ajax or Ajaxie would NOT work as a nickname. Ajax would work for AJ & Jax, though.

I also like Ellie and Emily Wilson. Her voice is adorable.

I want her with AJ! That could be HOT!

Except Ajax or Ajaxie would NOT work as a nickname. Ajax would work for AJ & Jax, though.

I also like Ellie and Emily Wilson. Her voice is adorable.

AJ and Maxie? Aw, hell no! That old ass man can back it on away from Maxie. That would just be creepy!

Yeah. If it isn't in the contract, I'm not sure. I know it's technically Maxie's body, but if she agreed to carry their baby, wouldn't they have full access to all of her medical information in regards to the baby?

I forgot to mention, by allowing that into a contract, where does it end? Not even the most specific contract would be allowed to violate Maxie's right to medical privacy. Look at Lulu? She is hounding this chick like crazy, and I believe in some cases, this is probably very realistic. Would you want Lulu, who is this desperate for a child, high strung and very emotional to have your medical information at will?

Well, it needs to end at the point where Maxie is able to NOT tell them that the embryo they financed to have implanted in her on "good faith" has been miscarried. To me, regardless of if it's Maxie's body, that is where the line should be drawn. Maxie volunteered and chose to go forward with this even after Lante gave her a number of chances to back out. The fact that she goes ahead, miscarries, lies by omission and then fucks Spinelli the same night is way over the line. This is now in the realm of deceit and, to me, you don't have a right to deceive anyone that is coming to you with the best of intentions. Yes, Lulu is a pain, but it's not out of anything but zeal for the baby she thinks she's having. She's not all up in Maxie's business just for the hell of it it. She's invested, literally, in Maxie carrying this baby. I can't fault her for that.

It's the risk you take when you use someone's body, but I don't disagree at all.

Well, it needs to end at the point where Maxie is able to NOT tell them that the embryo they financed to have implanted in her on "good faith" has been miscarried. To me, regardless of if it's Maxie's body, that is where the line should be drawn. Maxie volunteered and chose to go forward with this even after Lante gave her a number of chances to back out. The fact that she goes ahead, miscarries, lies by omission and then [!@#$%^&*] Spinelli the same night is way over the line. This is now in the realm of deceit and, to me, you don't have a right to deceive anyone that is coming to you with the best of intentions. Yes, Lulu is a pain, but it's not out of anything but zeal for the baby she thinks she's having. She's not all up in Maxie's business just for the hell of it it. She's invested, literally, in Maxie carrying this baby. I can't fault her for that.

Not to mention the clear fraud thats being perpretrated as she is being paid a handsome sum for this. Not only are their moral issues, there's legal ones with her taking their money, only to not deliver a baby on her end

I take personal offense to this story because I've seriously thought about the prospect of surrogacy in my own life... like had discussions with people close to me about this. Granted, I decided against it, but still... to know that this could very well be legal sickens me. So, this means, according to this theory and at its extreme, the surrogate could change her mind, terminate the pregnancy and I would never know because I'm allegedly not privy to this information. That's horrible and seems to be giving the volunteer way too much control over the people who FINANCE this. Sorry, I really can't like Maxie after this. I've always hated Helium Maxie, but this would bother me even if it was my much preferred Jen Lilley Maxie.

Not to mention the clear fraud thats being perpretrated as she is being paid a handsome sum for this. Not only are their moral issues, there's legal ones with her taking their money, only to not deliver a baby on her end

YES! Which is why I feel there needs to be some protection for the Falconeris on this end. They came at this with the best of intentions and should be met with the same in return. They sought out applicants, got funds from eager family and even gave of their own. It's Dante's sperm and Lulu's egg. It's not like they're just waiting on the sidelines to adopt Maxie's baby she had with a one night stand.