Not to get off topic but why do you not like Oprah? I really don't know what to think of her. I think she should have brought those soaps because they have a following and would have done OWN good.

I disagree about her buying these soaps and I found it hilarious some of the crazier fans were throwing a fit that she didn't.

I'd rather she create her own original soaps.

I definitely thought about the soaps again when it was FINALLY announced that OWN would have original scripted programming (provided by Tyler Perry). I'm interested to see how his shows will do. I saw the breakdowns when they were casting and one of them is an adaptation of one of his earlier plays. If what's said about TP is true, he runs a very, ahem, *cost efficient* ship. His shows do (imho) inexplicably well in syndication. This was just a cheaper, safer bet. Of course they're also really close friends and for whatever reasons, I don't see that relationship souring should this venture fail.

Whether it's Oprah or Prospect Park, i'm adamant about the fact that these shows cannot afford to move sideways. They can't merely move to a new network and do exactly what the were doing on ABC. Ain't nobody got time or money fuh dat. I want to see them at their best, freshly scrubbed faces, new attitude towards excellence, the BEST writers and producers at their helm.

I keep dipping my toe in this rabbit hole...

All My Children wasn't THAT bad. I only thought certain stories were bad but never the whole show and I thought the majority of it was good. I'll be honest and say I would love for All My Children to come back. For me personally it was the complete opposite. I still loved AMC but the OLTL ship sailed for me. I did not like Ron C. and Frank V's. version of OLTL. They made it ridiculous. I've said it before but the OLTL I preferred was Michael Malone's OLTL of the 90's. It was just so good and was great, riveting drama. Cartini turned OLTL into a comedy hour and I thought the whole fraternity row story was ridiculous. I loved AMC. I loved the Kane Women, Angie and Jessie, the Chandlers, Dixie and Tad. If I had to pick between the two I would select AMC over OLTL.

AMC was my show. It was my second soap (SFT was my first only by virtue of having come on a half hour before AMC). It's the soap I always came back to. I didn't think of it as bad at the end so much as broken. Years of mismanagement, bad writing and the textbook Frons insistence of trying to force viewers to like his fave characters just eroded at what AMC was all about. But I think its ending was very true to the show I'd watched all my life.

Personally I don't need to see AMC rise again as it was but I could totally get on board with a time jump that introduces new characters as long as it's written by people who understand what the show was about. Again, this is why I HATED the idea of Carlivati being involved. He's pretty much the anti-Nixon.

ITA. As broken as AMC was, there were enough elements in place to fix it unlike OLTL, which bore no resemblance to Nixon's vision for over 10 years before it was finally canceled.

Not sure how reliable the sources are in this article. Apparently, La Lucci has been contacted by PP.

http://www.showbiz41...hildren-revival

I hope it's true, but again I don't want to get my hopes up yet.

Well, it would be nice to have a smart, high profile, savvy soap fan say a few words on our behalf while being interviewed on national television. It would be nice to see the soap industry called out and publicly shamed for the inferor product they grew comfortable with over the past twenty odd years, and to let TPTB know in such an open forum beyond the dismissed message boards what fans do and do not want to see. I don't want PP churning out the garbage that left so many of us disenfranchised with AMC and OLTL. What I liked about the idea of PP overseeing these shows was their cable sensibilities and my hope that they would help AMC and OLTL think outside the soap box and ditch age-old bad habits, embracing the future of scripted drama.

Exactly! There's potential for these shows to rise again if PP hires good writers who are familiar with the Agnes Nixon shows and care about daytime drama. It would be just too painful for them to be brought back with writers like McTavish & Carlivati.

I do hope that if one of the two shows comes back that it's AMC. I find that the AMC cast & fans are more deserving of a revival. Their finale was a huge cliffhanger, wheras OLTL had a minor cliffhanger, and a pretty good overall close. The OLTL cast was largely newbies towards the end, and the fans claim they saved GH, so they can just watch that.

nah I think OLTL is more viable, AMC was a shell of itself and anyone who claims otherwise clearly didn't watch the show. I'd rather see OLTL return

Edited December 22, 201212 yr by dragonflies

nah I think OLTL is more viable, AMC was a shell of itself and anyone who claims otherwise clearly didn't watch the show. I'd rather see OLTL return

I think based on the media attention given towards the two shows that AMC is the better candidate for revival. The last few years, the show was awful, but in the end, viewers got to see how good it could be with the right balance of cast members. OLTL was a lot more distant from its former self when it ended. I found OLTL to be pretty bad from the latter half of 2008 on. AMC only really went downhill after the show moved production from NYC to LA.

Another way to look at is that a lot of OLTL crew members, including the EP & HW, are at GH now. That provides several problems itself, as well as having Howarth, Easton, & Alderson on contract there.

What I find interesting is the potential trouble that may arise between PP's OLTL and the OLTL characters now living in the GH universe. That could get very messy.

Another way to look at is that a lot of OLTL crew members, including the EP & HW, are at GH now. That provides several problems itself, as well as having Howarth, Easton, & Alderson on contract there.

It would crack my [!@#$%^&*] up if Cartini's attempts to force OLTL to live on through GH resulted in screwing its chance for a real revival.

Edited December 22, 201212 yr by marceline

And it's much more complicated than a mere Bobby's dead on Knots alive on Dallas kinda thing.

What I find interesting is the potential trouble that may arise between PP's OLTL and the OLTL characters now living in the GH universe. That could get very messy.

That kind of makes me wonder about rights and things like that. If OLTL were to come back and air on another network, could OLTL characters still be mentioned on GH, and could GH characters begin being mentioned on a new version of OLTL?

And it's much more complicated than a mere Bobby's dead on Knots alive on Dallas kinda thing.

Heck, it's even more complicated than Lucy Coe the Vampire Slayer.

That kind of makes me wonder about rights and things like that. If OLTL were to come back and air on another network, could OLTL characters still be mentioned on GH, and could GH characters begin being mentioned on a new version of OLTL?

Heck, it's even more complicated than Lucy Coe the Vampire Slayer.

Yeah, and I'm imagining this bizarre bidding war between characters and if there are even some contractual caveats that could make for some real-life soap opera, i.e., PP gets to nab characters back from GH against FV/RC's wishes.

OLTL in it's final years just got way to campy for me. All My Children on the other hand was my show and wasn't that far off. As proven by the show's final months it could easily be fixed and it was. OLTL really went downhill in my eyes when they did the whole talking dog thing. I thought Carlivati was reviving Passions. LOL! But seriously though for the sake of the soap genre as a whole I would love for these two shows to come back. I always thought ABC might cancel one but I was really thrown for a loop when they announced they were cancelling two. I'll have to look for the article but there was an article talking about how they would be getting Agnes Nixon involved again because she has "That special sauce that made the shows great"

Yeah, and I'm imagining this bizarre bidding war between characters and if there are even some contractual caveats that could make for some real-life soap opera, i.e., PP gets to nab characters back from GH against FV/RC's wishes.

Heck, I'm trying to figure out if PP will be able to nab FV & RC from GH along with the rest of the OLTL transplants.

Heck, I'm trying to figure out if PP will be able to nab FV & RC from GH along with the rest of the OLTL transplants.

GHers, we'll let you keep them.

I'm all for Starr and John staying on GH. Hated them on OLTL and prefer them in supporting capacity on GH.

Roger Howarth, I would want him back on OLTL.