Members y&r_fan Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 KSJ is dull but I certainly wouldn't want him fired. He's the only black vet Y&R has - it would be PR suicide for the show. He needs to stay, if for no other reason than to be a patriarch/figurehead for the Winters clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Money Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 An actor who cares? Please. His acting style hasn't changed since he debuted and he's always been low key. Why should he give a f.uck when YR never gave a damn about him. I think he's entitled to phone it in every once in awhile when everyone who is less talented than him, who started after him, get fatter paychecks and more screen time than he will ever get in this lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 I don't mind KSJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 George and Weezie lived in an apartment. in the sky. DELUXE. Maybe Neil is a busy man and doesn't have time for the mundane rigors of home maintinence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 The solution is firing Kristoff & Bryton to hire "better" black actors on Y&R? Debbi Morgan & Darnell Williams are Emmy winning black actors & neither were treated with any respect on Y&R. Daphne Duplaix made a great Rachel recast but she was fired while actors like JPL, FF & Crystal Hunt remained on canvas. Timothy Stickney was brought back to prop Tea & Victor while Nathan Purdee didn't even get an exit. Kristolyn Lloyd was one of the best young actors B&B had hired in years yet in 6 months she was paired with the only other black actor on the show & backburnered with him. After almost two years of nothing despite having chemistry with every character she interacts with Angel Conwell is JUST getting a contract while Liz Hendrickson went from a dayplayer to a string of chemistry free relationships in the same amount of time. Walter Fauntleroy & Cornelius Smith were two of Daytime's best young actors yet neither got any screentime. Sean Blakemore pours COFFEE on General Hospital. So what's the point of firing "boring", "unattractive" actors like Kristoff & Bryton for "better" black actors if "better", "more attractive" black actors aren't ever written for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoTheGreat Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 People still don't want to admit it's the writers with the problems. They write terrible for the white actors but they write worse for the black ones. & non of the black actors are their favorites either. It's always the white ones they pick as their favorites & you can tell by how much airtime they get & how many story lines they are in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chicklitsandfantasies Posted December 29, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 I'm still mad they attached Dayzee to Marcus. Texas Battle is good to look at but a horrible actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 I've been thinking this for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 Wow! That's quite a breakdown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Becki Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 I was going through some old files I have on an external harddrive of mine and came across one of the episodes where Chris Engen was playing Adam. He was a million times better on his worst day than Muhney is on his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 You aren't the only one. They so missed out on the Dayzee/Thomas pairing. But I agree that majority of writers in daytime write black characters horribly. I can only think of a few (Nancy Curlee, Bill Bell, Sally Sussman Morina, Kay Alden, & John F. Smith) that wrote compelling stories IMO. But I give Josh some credit (an ounce) for trying to diversify Y&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members edgeofnik Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 Yep. CE did a great job as Adam. But I can't blame him for walking away from that disgusting storyline. (It was weird to hear ED and EB talk about how getting juicy drama is what it's all about.) No, that storyline was just sick on so many levels. It wasn't about the Rafe thing - it was all the other stuff (and even worse to come). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 he's not even that attractive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 TIIC had been working profusely to redeem him even though they wrote him as a psycho and MM's passive/aggressive ass didn't help matters. He attacked viewers who saw Adam as the freak he was and "believed" we didn't know good drama when we saw it. That was on the surface, but deep down, he knew there was truly no recovery from a fetus burning baby napping psych who sticks needles in his eyes as "part of the plan". Then they got all super brilliant and decided that putting him with Sharon would clean him up, but it did the opposite. Sharon, what was left of her, had been irreprably soiled. Both can go because there's no salvaging either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 Texas Battle makes me cringe the majority of the time and he plays the same dumb type of character in everything I've seen him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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