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I'm not up to date on finishing the past season at all, but I don't really think it is. The YT outrage merchants love to claim it's at death's door to fuel the woke wars, but in reality I think even if Disney didn't renew it (and I don't think that's likely, yet) the BBC would still continue it on a tighter budget.

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Never sure how I feel about colorization of DW. I still need to see the Daleks edit.

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Cutting The War Games specifically down to 90 minutes seems egregious - I'm sure it has plenty of fat, but it's not the same as cutting down a classic Terry Nation runaround. I'd at least give it 120 minutes. And we'll see how the 'new regeneration' comes off.

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Finally diving deeper into the RTD2 era proper, as it's rumored this week's episode may or may not be

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If anyone is gagging for extremely belated thoughts on much of Disney's Season 1/Series 14-onward, you know where to find me.

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A few very longwinded thoughts for no one in particular after catching up most of the last two seasons of DW on Disney+. @DRW50, apologies for copypasting much of our recent discussion but there's a bit more at the end that might suit you! (And a few more expansive thoughts on Dot and Bubble/73 Yards.)

Season 1/Series 14 (I'll always refer to these like that):

  •  I cannot imagine what possessed them to open the first Disney season with Space Babies. After a promising prologue which sort of functions as a recap for new viewers on the new platform, it begins as something at first appealingly deranged if controversial right out of the Graham Williams era, then very quickly slides into one of the nadirs of 60 years of the franchise for me. Possibly worse than Jodie Whittaker's first episode, which I found to be little more than a dull bit of Canadian syndicated sci-fi from 20 years ago. Absolutely staggering this was chosen. Shades of RTD lowlights like Love & Monsters, the Slitheen 2-parter or Fear Her.
  • OTOH: The Devil's Chord is a mix of either not great or fascinatingly weird, mystical stuff out of the Andrew Cartmel era in the late '80s. I found everything with the Beatles tedious or cheesy as well as how they defeated the villain, but Jinkx Monsoon was actually quite creepy as one of the gods of the pantheon (which made me think of the gods from the McCoy story The Greatest Show of the Galaxy). And the meta, random musical break at the end and all sorts of strange pacing and tonal bits felt very experimental - some of it appealing and unsettling, other parts just baffling. It makes you wonder what everyone BTS was dosing themselves with, at least for these two episodes.  The actors are fine, it's the material that is thunderingly insane. You can see why this first Disney season was very divisive already - it was wildly unwise to start with these two episodes - but there's still a lot more going on than the average Chibnall story. A truly, truly strange and unique time in the annals of Who.
  • Season 1/Series 14 picks up quite a bit with Boom and 73 Yards. Boom is a fairly bog-standard Moffat episode with a bottle premise (Doctor on a land mine) but a subversive message re: corporate military. A lot of the usual twee, now quite shopworn Moffat elements are in there including a ridiculous little girl and fairly precious finish, but it's still a solid watch and a good sight better than the first two eps. (The fact that it reuses some of the plot device from The Empty Child can be somewhat forgiven as it is apparently the same imaginary weapons manufacturer Moffat made up in that episode, from the 1940s - this same corporate enemy, Villengard, reappears later in Joy to the World.)
  • 73 Yards is excellent if often obscure, the first banger of this season but also (like Lux in S2/Series 15 a few weeks ago) one of its most metaphysical. Sort of a melange of folk horror a la the old BBC Christmas ghost stories as well as Tennant's Midnight, with elements of Turn Left and even a political thriller, and a great appearance by Sian Phillips. Its plot is deliberately very vague in places but it is easily the most compelling piece of Who I have seen since Peter Capaldi's era. Though like Turn Left it is a Doctor-lite episode. Really remarkable, at least as creepy as anything Hinchcliffe, Series 18 or the late Cartmel eps. With the same haze of doom as Inferno. Fans are still trying to puzzle it out to this day when parts of I think are designed to be opaque. Still, excellent and very, very different.
  • The same goes for Dot and Bubble: Very, very strong S24/early McCoy vibes (in a more positive way than Space Babies) a la Paradise Towers, etc. due to its wacky social media/TikTok/VR interface premise, but with a very, very bitter aftertaste as the open secret of Finetime becomes clear. I understand this story was controversial for obvious reasons to anyone who's seen it, but I think it serves as a slap in the face and a bucket of cold water for an audience that sometimes needs it. Plot aside, Dot and Bubble is at its core a simple, remarkably nihilistic story - a Black Mirror story riff, really - about who we are and where we may well be going. The social media commentary and tools are just the lens for the message, they aren't the message itself. It sticks with you, and is easily the other standout of a very mixed season for me next to 73 Yards. (Rogue with Jonathan Groff is a fun romp but not much else, though he and Gatwa do have chemistry.)
  • The Sutekh finale of S1 is not as bad as people claim - the first half is pretty good putting aside the typical RTD nonsense anagram/wordplay that doesn't quite hold together, while the second half is weaker and much more pat, but it's really just a pretty typical 2-parter conclusion with DW time travel magic, followed by the hilariously weird and stupid touch of having the Doctor foil Sutekh like Mitt Romney's dog. The reveal on Ruby's parentage is basically The Last Jedi which made people mad all over again, but it's just as well an ending for something that had a very limited window of time to play. (They probably should've dumped the subplot entirely if they wanted it to be stronger, but the payoff with Ruby's real mom does hit very hard and genuinely got me.) I've seen far worse DW finales, starting with Army of Ghosts/Doomsday or literally any Chibnall finale. Not great, but not terrible and wonderful work from Bonnie Langford (Mel should travel with Fifteen for an ep or two), as well as a very touching sendoff for Ruby and a mature approach from the Doctor who (like Whittaker's) calmly accepts what's best for her before she does and doesn't moan or weep over it. I would've loved to have more of Millie Gibson who was great, but Ruby does really feel in a way like RTD bedding the show back in with a standard-issue companion for a season before hopefully moving on to someone more complex. It feels appropriate for her to go.
  • The latest Christmas special (Joy to the World) is quite good IMO, one of the stronger efforts of the current era. Unlike Boom, it is full of Moffatisms but they feel far less shopworn or treacly. The holiday special format makes the schmaltz more appropriate and touching. And watching Gatwa's Doctor navigate some long-form time travel/waiting around situations quite similar to ones Capaldi and Smith approached but in a very different way helps distinguish him more beyond just the actor's winning, very open performance. He remains a very emotional, evolved Doctor and that seems to be the throughline so far along with his explicit queerness. It's a good start, though I really hope he'll get the customary three series to fully blossom. Though I fear he won't.

Season 2/Series 15:

  • After the considerable upswing of Joy to the World, The Robot Revolution was a pretty brutal comedown. I found it quite dire - a very blunt force message about incels and an astonishingly nonsensical story that barely held together, feeling very rushed through the shorter Disney under 60 mins running time. It felt like a very woolly first draft of this story. It barely keeps itself together because Varada Sethu is great as Belinda and quickly winning with Gatwa, but boy could I not get out of here fast enough. First stories are rarely great ones for a new Doctor or companion but this one was rough! I did love the opening bit with Mrs. Flood as Belinda's neighbor, and Belinda telling her to tell the other neighbors their atomized cat had gone to live on a farm. Sethu has great comic timing as well as her dramatic chops - more on those below.
  • Fortunately, Series 2 seems off to a better start overall: The Well is well-received and Lucky Day (the upcoming Ruby solo episode) seems very positively reviewed as well this weekend. I will get to them, but as of now I am only up to episode 2: Lux, with Alan Cumming as the evil cartoon Mr. Ring-a-Ding. The ongoing subplot/arc of the Gods of the Pantheon, which has recurred off and on ever since the Toymaker in the specials, is an interesting throughline for RTD to keep playing with, and feels possibly like a response to a Disney note, but it works here. (And again, seems reminiscent of when the scheming master Seventh Doctor repeatedly would face seemingly god after god from various strata of cosmic deities in his final two seasons.) Lux lives up to the hype for me: It's both very unique in execution with the evil cartoon but very experimental - at least as much as 73 Yards or Dot and Bubble - with the heavy metatextual element of the Doctor and Belinda escaping television entirely and interacting with fandom, even if their teary goodbye to them is a bit much. The episode operates entirely on avant-garde logic that it makes work for it, and then has a great, melancholy, almost Warriors' Gate/Evangelion-esque ending with Lux Imperator ascending into the cosmos. Which brings me to my larger points.
  • You just will never find another DW ep like Lux, 73 Yards or Dot and Bubble and that's why they work so well IMO. The Disney era is quite a mixed bag so far, at times full of some of RTD's most rushed or downright woefully bad writing, but it also has him taking some of his biggest, wildest chances as an artist, things you get the sense he never felt the freedom to do in the franchise anymore and now may never get a chance again. Some of them are dreadful, some feel like tired rehashes but some are really spectacularly different and daring. Even the constant fourth wall breaks with Anita Dobson (who's chilling as Mrs. Flood) mostly work for me.
  • Similarly: Ncuti Gatwa's Doctor is a work in progress, and hopefully not one with very little time left. Yes, Gatwa's Doctor cries a bit too much but the fact that he cries at all, and that we accept it and that rage and tantrums do not accompany it a la other Doctors, is the biggest change. Fifteen, insofar as we have gotten to begin to know him a bit (not enough yet), is the evolved, vulnerable, emotional but not self-pitying or self-mythologizing Doctor. He remains (to me at least) as open and honest and forthright, and kind, as he appeared when he first revealed himself to Fourteen in The Giggle. He is not bland and a collection of other Doctors' tics like Whittaker's Doctor, but he does feel younger - reborn, more in touch with a kind of youthful emotionalism but also a kind of innate maturity to not be egocentric or tortured, for once. This kind of naked honesty has led to accusations that Gatwa is only 'playing a normal human' or is too opaque at present, and I can understand some of the latter commentary but I don't think he is just playing a cool dude. He's just a remarkably refreshed Doctor who (in addition to being very explicitly queer onscreen) feels the healthiest that he has in ages. But does that leave much for the character to do or explore unless he suffers setbacks? That's an open issue and it remains to be seen. It's certainly never a Doctor I've seen before though. He definitely has gotten the 'therapy' he told Fourteen he had. And I do enjoy watching him. I hope this isn't the end for him due to the state of streaming - I think we have much more to learn. The key moments for Fifteen include two in Lux: The way bigotry is dealt with here is not with gurning or screams or rage as Belinda discovers she and the Doctor wouldn't normally be allowed into the segregated spaces in Miami in the '50s, but with Fifteen gently telling her with a dazzling smile that he has toppled worlds but lets them do it themselves sometimes in their own time; 'until then, I live in it and I shine.' Followed by at the end, where he calmly says that according to the laws of the land 'sunlight doesn't suit us' and it's time to go. It's not giving a pass to the era but it's not doing the adolescent thing over being trapped in the '50s either. Again, this is material that leads to accusations of Fifteen being too perfect, or too static - I think we've just rarely seen such a settled Doctor in the modern era. Whether he's too static, I think it's too soon to know. Thirteen's certainly was, and much less interesting IMO.
  • Belinda Chandra reminds me a lot of Liz Shaw: No nonsense, a medical professional and often all business in a situation before the Doctor (so far). She's a grown woman, not a young girl on the cusp and shows it without being as comic as Donna Noble. It's a different kind of companion and one maybe needed for this Doctor. I'd be curious to hear other people's thoughts on her and Varada Sethu.

Sorry to run so long, but if anyone else is watching do chime in sometime! I will get to The Well (a.k.a.

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Thanks @Vee for the commentary. 
 

I haven’t even watched this season yet after  I couldn’t get past the couple episodes last season…like it was too Disneyified for my taste, although I did think it was a least better than the Chibnall era (but so is a lot of things). I’ll probably go back and binge it now.

Hoping this season ends on a high note. I did read the ratings are terrible. As it stands I’m beginning to feel like what long time DW fans felt with S26 in 1989.

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They're neither great nor terrible AFAIK, but it is more a question of the streaming numbers in this day and age vs. actual TV airings. The Chibnall era reminded me much more of the crisis years, but I do think it's a very real possibility now as well due to the streaming bubble collapse affecting the show and its prospects.

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Lucky Day is an awfully good Doctor-lite episode focused on Millie Gibson and Jemma Redgrave - I am glad the show brought in Varada Sethu who continues to give major Caroline John/Liz Shaw vibes, but Millie was always very good in what felt designed to be a single arc companion and she's very good here too. She deserves a bit more somewhere in the franchise.

The depressingly relevant storyline aside, I was most impressed by the showcase for UNIT and Kate Stewart. Jemma is always good but she was amazing here, noting the Doctor would've stopped her from going all the way re: Think Tank if he were there. Yet it's the kind of brute force her father could and did resort to in extreme situations back in the day. I almost hoped she would allow Conrad to be killed right then and there, which is something I think the Brigadier also would've done when backed against a wall over operational control and the safety of the Earth. She came very close, and the steel Redgrave exhibited (as always) was amazing.

Whatever spinoffs can still materialize given the current streaming climate and DW's uncertain future (I do think it will continue somewhere, but I would not be shocked if it's back to a run of holiday specials for awhile a la Tennant's and Whittaker's), aside from the upcoming odd Sea Devils miniseries that's in the can, I still hope UNIT and Kate can get a proper one sometime.

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Rocco apologizes for his bad behavior.  5/19/2025 -- interrupts a cfamily meeting that BLQ arranges (with Jason, Tracy, Ned, Olivia and Lois) that BLQ urges everyone to forgive Gio for not telling anyone about Rocco before Cody saved him. Gio apologizes to all for his part and accepts responsibility. Says it doesn't matter that Damte doesn't like him Lois Cerullo Q --   Added       5/2/2025 -- with Lucy and Maxie working on Nuses Ball seating chart and floor plan; starts a conversation with Tracy. 5/5/2025 - Tracy demands to know where her great grandson and draws the line in the sand. Dante gets a call while with Lois about Rocco. She drives him to the hospital. 5/6/2025 -- much to Dante's anger, defends Gio. Dante rants how they protect him, and Lulu overhears. Especially when Lois says "You don't know who he is!"  5/7/2025 -- tries to get Dante to realize that Gio is not the reason Rocco is in the hospital;  5/9/2025 -- talks with Jason and Dante, who discuss the boys.  5/15/2025 -- with Sonny, Donna and Gio at NB rehearsals. Silently wishes Gio a happy birthday; has a talk with Chase.  5/19/2025   --  at family meeting about Gio; proud he accepted responibility   Stella Henry  Added      5/14/2025 -- visiting with Kai, he wants help to be discharged to see Trina and support her at the NB. She tells him the doctor won't allow him to go. I. C. U. Nurse Deanna Sirtis    Added    5/1/2025 -- Preps Kai for surgery;   5/5/2025 -- gave Drew an IV to help re-hydrate him. Suggests he check his GPS for where he had been with Jacinda Nurse Amy Driscoll    Added        5/2/2025 --   gossips with an orderly about Drew and later fumbles her words when talking to Wallow Dr. Andy Park    Added      5/3/2025 --  ER doctor that takes care of Rocco, pumping his stomach for alcohol poisoning Bartender at the Brown Dog  Added      5/7/2025 -- (Chase, BLQ, Cody,Lois, Ava, Ric)  Cody saw the Dulos card   Damian Spinelli    Added    5/14/2025 -- hired by Alexis to track Ric's car; willing to help Samantha's mom with anything.   Brick    Added      4/24/2025 --  in Los Angeles for Sonny's surgery with Carly; 4/25/2025 -- waits with Carly for Sonny surgery to end;   4/28/2025 -- kills Hit "nurse"; Calls Brennan to clean up his mess N'neeka Garland    Added     4/28/2025 -- working at the Savoy (Kai, Trina, Anna, Professor Dalton) 4/29/2025 -- The Savoy (Lulu, Cody, Drew, Jacinda, Curtis, Portia, Lucas, Merco) when Drew does body shots off Jacinda W. S. B. Agent ____ Vaughn    Added        4/28/2025  --  de-briefing Joss in an alleyway; 5/1/2025 -- lurking around the hospital and Joss asks for his assistance;   5/2/2025  --  "meets" Gio, Joss and Emma at the shore. Convinces Gio and Emma to go into the water while Joss steals and corrupts Emma's flash drive. They return too soon. When Emma notices her  flash drive is gone, Joss pretends to find it in the sand.  5/5/2025 --  with Josslyn about the stolen thumb drive and her job with Dalton.  5/7/2025 --  in Brennan's office reporting in on Josslyn's progress. Tells him Anna Devane was sitting with Dalton. They worry that she'll catch on to their op.   5/13/2025 -- shows up at Dalton's office to help Joss search it Danny Morgan     Added        4/24/2025 -- baseball practice with Jason; admits he has mixed feelings about Lulu  -- happy for Rocco, but misses Sam and can be jealous...joins Rocco at baseball field, goofing around.  5/1/2025 -- Supposed to go to the Woodchucks game with Dante and Rocco until Dante learns they left a huge mess at the boat house. Sends them there and then can't take them. Danny suggests the college bonfire, but Rocco is leery.  5/2/2025 --   Sneaks out to the bonfre with Rocco.  They ask for beers to look like they fit in.  The frat guys give them "Grog" instead (the beer is too foamy).   The boys pretend to be freshmen when they meet Carrie and Zoe, two co-eds.   Rocco starts to drink while Danny is invited to play volleyball. Danny sees Joss and Vaughn talking but walks away. Rocco is invited to play a drinking game. Danny finds him passed out.   5/5/2025 -- Searches for Gio for help with Rocco.They rush him to the boathouse.  Cody arrives and tells Danny that Rocco needs a hospital.   5/6/2025 -- upset about Rocco. tells Carly that he just went to play volleyball and didn't realize Rocco was drinking. She reminds him that next time he wants to get a "rush" of adrenaline, to consider who his actions will affect.    5/8/2025 -- Conversation with Sasha followed by a heart to heart talk with Jason; 5/9/2025 --  faces the music with Lulu, who lets him off the hook as long as he joins Rocco cleaning the house.  Rocco Falconeri   Added          4/24/2025 -- with Lulu, talks about Danny and Scout; baseball practice with Danny, Dante and Jason, goofing around 5/1/2025 -- Supposed to go to the Woodchucks game with Dante and Danny until Dante learns they left a huge mess at the boat house. Sends them there and then can't take them. Danny suggests the college bonfire, but Rocco is leery.   5/2/2025 --   Sneaks out to the bonfre with Danny.  They ask for beers to look like they fit in.  The frat guys give them "Grog" instead (the beer is too foamy).   The boys pretend to be freshmen when they meet Carrie and Zoe, two co-eds.   Rocco starts to drink while Danny is invited to play volleyball. Danny sees Joss and Vaughn talking but walks away. Rocco is invited to play a drinking game. Danny finds him passed out.  5/5/2025 --    passed out from too many lemony booze shots, begs Gio not to tell his folks while Danny and Gio bring him to the boat house. Cody has him rushed to the hospital. Rocco has his stomach pumped. 5/6/2025 --    Blood alcohol level was close to 4.0 and could have been much worse. Good thing Cody noticed he was sicker than they thought.  5/7/2025 --  First Cody, then Laura spend time in Rocco's hospital room. 5/9/2025 -- Cleaning house from top to bottom for Lulu with help from Danny.  5/15/2025 -- with Kristina and Dante,  begs Dante to stop blaming Gio because everything that happened was Rocco's own fault; 5/16/2025 -- with Gio and BLQ. Apologizes to Gio for getting him involved and blamed. Gio tells him to just stay off the booze until he's 21.   Donna Corinthos  added       4/24/2025 -- supposed to go to the park with Kristina; at the house with Dante;   4/25/2025 -- makes Sonny a get well card with Kristina; bribed with lollipops.  5/15/2025 -- at NB rehearsal; "hires" Gio for her birthday party (several months from now)  5/16/2025 -- with Sonny and Carly after rehearsal   Trish Ramish      Added      4/25/2025 -- MetroCourt (Drew, Sidwell, Jordan)   Congresssman Ezra Boyle   Added       5/14/2025 --  asks Drew what he did with Jacinda;Tells him Nina was talking  to Jacinda; insults Laura and Lulu, verbally attacking her and raving about Rocco's alcohol poisoning until she throws her drink in his face     Jacinda    Added        4/25/2025   -- Portia and Nina hire her to screw up Drew's life;  4/29/2025 with Nina; Out with Drew to The Savoy where he's Ketamine fueled and doing body shots off of her;  4/30/2025  --   meets Wallow while putting on her clothes; leaves town   Professor Henry Dalton    Added       4/28/2025 -- meets Anna at the Savoy;  4/29/2025 -- gets to know Anna at the Savoy as Joss looks on; talks about the class with Joss. 5/12/2025 -- says Emma's data model wasn't good enough, gives the assistant job to Joss. Suzanne        Added           4/28/2025 -- brings Alexis a package; 5/9/2025 -- announces BLQ and Chase for an appointment  5/14/2025 -- lets Spinelli into Alexis' office   Dr. __ Mohinder   Added       Never Seen   Anesthesiologist    ????   4/24/2025    Sonny's Heart Procedure    Los Angeles O. R. Nurse       ????      4/24/2025    Sonny's Heart Procedure   Los Angeles O. R. Nurse       ????      4/25/2025    Sonny's Heart Procedure   Los Angeles Doctor __  Abbott    ????      4/24 - 25/2025       Sonny's Heart Procedure   Los Angeles Assassin       Brianna Kellum     4/25 - 28/2025   hit woman disguised as a nurse; tries to inject Sonny but Brick kills her Baden Baden Clinic Desk Clerk     ????   4/25/2025    When Wallow arrives to visit Michael, this Clerk turns her away. Tells her Michael refused to see her, then calls Drew to tell him she did as he asked. Hub Nurse     ????     4/28/2025     Los Angeles nurse where Sonny's procedure is being done. Mike Corbin    Added     4/28/2025   -- Sonny's anesthesia induced dream Hub Nurse     ???   4/30/2025   Los Angeles nurse where Sonny's procedure is being done. Reporter      ?????    4/30/2025      Voices outside Drew's house   Reporter      ?????    4/30/2025      Voices outside Drew's house   Reporter      ?????    4/30/2025      Voices outside Drew's house   Josh     Stephen Ellis     4/30/2025  Documentary Filmmaker of Kai's surgery; questions Trina about surgery; 5/1/2025 -- continues to film for documentary, wants to interview Trina, but Joss and Emma refuse to sign Waivers  Orderly      ????    5/2/2025     gossiping with Amy Driscoll about Drew and Wallow Nurse Joann      ?????      5/2 & 5/2025    AAPI Nurse that has appeared for years.5/5 -- talking to Marco Frat Guy       ?????    5/2/2025  serving alcohol at the bonfire; tell Rocco and Danny there's too much foam in the keg beer and supplies them with grog .   Frat Guy       ?????    5/2/2025  serving alcohol at the bonfire; tell Rocco and Danny there's too much foam in the keg beer and supplies them with grog .   Zoe      ?????    5/2/2025 c  girl that mets Rocco and Danny at the bonfire Kerry     Morgan Bastin   5/2/2025  college girl that mets Rocco and Danny at the bonfire Bonfire Attendee           ?????       5/2/2025    wandering the beach Bonfire Attendee           ?????       5/2/2025    wandering the beach Bonfire Attendee           ?????       5/2/2025    wandering the beach Bonfire Attendee           ?????       5/2/2025    wandering the beach Bonfire Attendee           ?????       5/2/2025    wandering the beach Bonfire Attendee           ?????       5/2/2025    wandering the beach Bonfire Attendee           ?????       5/2/2025    wandering the beach Hub Nurse        ?????   5/6/2025 Waitress at Brown Dog       ????    5/7/2025 Cameraman     ????    5/8/2025      Drew's announcement about being drugged MetroCourt Bartender      Stephaun Pender     5/8/2025   Nina/Tracy Paul     ?????     5/8/2025 --  Guard at Sonny's house Physical Therapist   ????    5/14/2025  working with Kai Process Server     Nick Santucci     5/14/2025   Wallow with court papers Storage Facility Attendant   Phil Idriss    5/15/2025   Empty storage unit that Alexis Barrista     ????    5/16/2025 -- calls BLQ and Gio's drinks Process Server     Annie Sway     5/19/2025     served Sasha a subpoena for Wallow vs. Michael custody trial Stunt Double      Heather Leah Bonoro     5/19/2025     Carly Stunt Double      Kara Smith      5/19/2025     Nina Margaret Harper  (v/o)  ????        5/19/2025 --   member of the Nicola Quartet with Camilla Palmieri. Called Lulu and revealed Camilla was never pregnant.  Sent Lulu a picture of herself and Camilla in New Zealand that proved it. Receptionist     Nicci Bates  1/24/2025    At Turning Woods, Josslyn offers this receptionist  assistance as a volunteer    
    • Lynda Hirsch on Pittsburgh 2Day, 1987 Discussing the end of Capitol, Guiding Light and the writing turmoil is talked about near the end.  6:00: "Alan Spaulding was supposed to have a daughter return, they got rid of that."
    • This May 20 podcast is an audio version of the April 2nd youtube interview Original here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_EUpTxwbyY
    • Her title is: Director of Fighting with Daphne Rose & Expository Recapping with Brooke
    • Another time when some fans have an idea that the show is very unlikely to share. LOL! Exception for last year when they *almost* did off Ava. But, then, does almost count? This version of Love2Hate Drew is not going anywhere. Since Frank is not going to authorize a murder or killing there can't be a mystery whodunnit because it's not getting dun.  Edit to add: IMO, of course. I'm much more interested in whether we are getting Dark Michael?
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