Members EricMontreal22 Posted April 19, 2012 Members Share Posted April 19, 2012 Wow I had no idea Amber was Russ Tamblyn's daughter--though now I wonder why I didn't clue into it. I also didn't know Russ (according to Wiki) played his Twin Peaks character on GH briefly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greens_dupres Posted April 19, 2012 Members Share Posted April 19, 2012 I loved her first run (although I didn't see her as a small child) but completely agree that post-2005 return Robin was a mess. I actually think they made a huge mistake not throwing her back into Jason's orbit as soon as she was back on. I could never get into Scrubs because her stories with Stone & Jason were just so much more epic. I think tying her to a new character instead of someone we knew (even if wasn't Jason) was a huge mistake because it sent the most character with the most connections to everyone off onto an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted April 19, 2012 Members Share Posted April 19, 2012 I've come to really enjoy Galen Gering on DAYS and appreciate his value to the show. He and Nicole are sparking like crazy for me right now and could be the gift that keeps on giving if somehow Christie Clark stays. I want a Nicole/Rafe/Carrie triangle like you wouldn't believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 19, 2012 Members Share Posted April 19, 2012 Here's another unpopular opinion of mine: Aside from Stone (and yes, I'm well aware that his tragic death has plenty to do with it, but I could care less), none of the bums that Robin has been paired with (whether it'd be turncoat Jasus or infidel Patrick) were good enough for her. One of the many reasons why I hate Guza so is because he forced this legacy character to put up with such horseshit because he was under the impression that she was lucky to have dated Jasus and have Patrick as a husband. UGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ms. Chandler Quartermaine Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 I agree so much with this. I was never an Emily fan, but I understood her presence. I felt like she was needed, the NL version had a warmth to her, and I enjoyed her relationship with all the Quartermaines, she was the one Quartermaine who all of them liked. But her death did bring me one of my favorite scenes in GH history, the scene on Thanksgiving when Nik opened the door to the Ballroom at Wyndermere and saw her ghost there and they danced together to that Lifehouse song, it was such a beautiful scene, they had amazing chemistry . I was so upset when she died, I felt like it was pointless. Her death along with Georgie made me angry. Natalia Livingston was a capable actress; she wasn’t as bad as people made her out to be. And I think she deserved her Emmy, which is a lot coming from me because she won over Robin Christopher. You know who I also liked, Chloe Morgan, I was sad to see her go as well. They always be killing off the good girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SweetPea36 Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 JFP has been quoted as saying, "Good girls are boring." That meant they were expendable and cannon fodder in a bad story. Georgie and Emily being killed off in that serial killer story was a terrible decision. It would have been far more dramatic and moved the show forward if Carly had been a victim rather than her nanny Leticia, her children's real mother. I've heard they wanted to get rid of Lindsay Leatherman (another actress who was deemed not attractive enough by GH's self-appointed creative director) and Natalia Livingston wanted to leave. I thought the character of Emily should have been kept and the role re-cast. It's not as if NL was the original Emily so no problem there. I hated that she had become a St. Jasus prop, but there were so many other things she could have done. That's especially true because they had fired Stuart Damon so there weren't many Quartermaines left except for the canonized one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 The problem with Emily is that she had ceased to exist as a character long before she was killed. All of her stories were about Nik, and then briefly, Sonny. Her rape was about Nik. Her death was about Nik. Natalia Livingston was playing a generic heroine, no more, no less. The Quartermaines were all gone by the time she was killed, so it wasn't a huge loss, IMO. The main reason the loss is felt is because GH has no ingenues. Women are there to be laughed at, derided, and treated as freak shows. Their stories are all about men. As much as many GH viewers hate Starr, none of her story, not a second of it, has been about her. It's about Michael and Sonny, and then Todd, with a brief pit stop for Mouthbreather McBain before he went back to not caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SweetPea36 Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 GH has made men more important in women's stories than the women themselves for some time. Elizabeth's rape was more about Lucky and by extension Luke and Laura than it was about Elizabeth. That was 1998 and if anything it's even worse now. Whatever happens to a woman on GH, its purpose is to give a man a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 Which is why I laugh about how great and well crafted that story was. It might have been penned by a better writer and producer but the overall theme was the same. It was used as a reason to pull lucky away from his family and to hate on Laura. I'm trying to think of the last story actually centered on and driven by women on GH. Maybe Carly's entrance into PC which was centered on she and Bobbie. Tony really wasn't much of a factor in that story. Monica's breast cancer story might be another. Other than that I can't think of one. I can't even fathom the idea now about this great angsty story Sam is getting because again it's more about Jason, the missing twin brother, and her savior mcBain than it is her. More screen time does not equal better story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 I agree GH has been male driven for quite some time and I always say Liz's rape was more about Lucky than Liz. Emily's death being about Nik annoyed me because she was more than Nik's fiancee/ex wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissLlanviewPA Posted April 21, 2012 Members Share Posted April 21, 2012 What about Robin in the AIDS story/being diagnosed as HIV positive (even though Stone was the one with AIDS, what about Robin's role/reaction to it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 21, 2012 Members Share Posted April 21, 2012 I kind of disagree. Lulu has had several storylines solely about her. Her abortion story, her mental breakdown over the death of Logan, almost all of her romances/relationships have been her put at the center of everything. I also think the show has put a lot of emphasis on Lisa Niles too and her hatred for Patrick and Robin was very much centered around her even though it directly impacted Scrubs. Also she beast Carly is all about her too and is heavily the anchor in all of her stories and interactions with the characters around her. Maxie also weaved in out and of stories based on how her own needs were suited and what she could get out of the situation. She pushed, drived and assisted story on her own merit more then not when Kristen Storms was first re-casted. Laura's returns were also heavily her centered even though she helped out her family. I don't think the problem is specifically that all women are subservient to men in their stories. I just think it's that all of the women in the stories are ridiculously unlikable more times then not. Emily and Georgie were truly the last ingenues of the show and the last time it felt like GH had good, warm characters who were likable as people you could see yourself having sympathy for. Since their demise the show has felt like it has been trying to cast one bitch after the other with no real reason for said bitchiness. It's the reason why Brenda and Robin were breaths of fresh air initially but they quickly got tired because they became paragons of virtue that constantly had to harp at the men who had no scruples or standards - which sooner or later becomes overbearing. But yes many of the women have no purpose and are only appendages to their men - Kate, Gloria to Sonny ; Elizabeth, Sam, Courtney were that to Jason, etc. When that happens the women in question have no meaning so why are we supposed to care about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 21, 2012 Members Share Posted April 21, 2012 Brenda is not what I consider and good girl and she never was. She was bad before and sicne then has been somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 21, 2012 Members Share Posted April 21, 2012 That would be the equivalent to stark as white on the show now because there are no good characters to contrast her with to show her as being less then good. GH is filled with bad characters, as the show has no true heroes or heroines anymore. Just flaming hypocrites they try to sell as good (Lulu, Elizabeth, Carly, Gloria, Sonny, Jason, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 21, 2012 Members Share Posted April 21, 2012 Um who the hell is Gloria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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