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With so many reference to Caroline, how many months before 'Linus' appears? We already know *twins* run in the Spencer family. We know very little about Liam's birth, etc. Please tell me it'll never happen. Brad undercutting the significance of Steffy/Hope scenes, which were great, by having Steffy squeal to Taylor less than an hour later. I was initially glad that Carter finally got a leading man story, except they've completely destroyed what made him likeable - from the imaginary House of Forrester, fake LLC papers and, Friday, he blames everything on Hope. Gross. Daphne being certain that Hope would go back to Liam is contrived. She knows nothing about their history. How many times has the Nose met Liam? If, say, Katie, Ridge or Steffy made the suggestion, at least, it would be believable from those characters' history/point-of-view. -
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Sometimes I forget Mindy had been married four times in the space of a decade. Those are Erica Kane numbers. -
By Contessa Donatella · Posted
This is Part 2 but I was wrong, there is no 3. Today we are going review one of the questions: “What are your thoughts on the validity of the Daytime Emmy Awards?” At this time, there was a lot of negative feelings about the awards, from the politics, the nomination process and even, where should they be held. MARY STUART: “No, comment. No, I really think it’s silly. It’s only an award for one particular performance, too. It’s ridiculous.” CARL LOW: “I understand they’re trying to change the format of selection, because a one-shot performance does not reflect a year’s work. Who can remember that one particular performance?” MARY STUART: “You’re supposed to save it. Three years in a row my tapes were erased. So I’m ineligible? One of the other sponsors said they didn’t want anyone on a P&G show nominated. Does that make sense? And the people who really hold the industry together never have any juicy scenes. People like Charita Bauer and Carl Low. I wish it were not a national game, but instead, a peer activity. I would believe in it if it were presented by our peers and it were private, within the industry from people who really care. Then it means something.” Mary made some very valid points. Until 1976, except for her nomination in the first year, no actor for a P&G show was nominated in the first two years of the awards. So, 1974 one nominee & 1975 zero nominees. That means only one out of about a hundred actors over five shows (SFT, EON, GL, ATWT and AW) were not nominated. LARRY HAINES: “I don’t think there should be fewer categories in daytime than there are in nighttime awards. If there is one for best performer, there has got to be one for best supporting performer, because nobody plays in a vacuum. It’s not a one person effort. The categories are voted on by a completely unbiased panel.” BILLIE LOU WATTS: “I agreed to be a judge last year. But I was not allowed to vote for best actor because we had two for our cast were nominees – Larry (Haines) and Michael (Nouri). I might be biased toward them. I also could not vote in best actress, since Mary (Stuart) was nominated. I could only vote in categories where I had no personal attachments. The only problem about the daytime awards is that the great test of a performer on a daytime show is how well he performs all year long. You can’t judge that unless you have someone who monitors it every week. They have increased it from judging just one scene to three, but…” VAL DUFOUR: “I resent the Daytime Emmy Awards and will have anything to do with them, as long as were presented in the daytime, with stuffed animals, instead of at night. I’m a member of AFTRA (American Federation of Television and Radio Artists), Screen Actors Guild (SAG) and Equity (the theater union) and I want the work I do represented with other member of my profession. As far as I am concerned, they are an insult to the actor. Number one, they (Academy members) don’t even begin to understand how to decide or judge, to say nothing of the fact the whole premise is phony, because it’s a bought, political thing. If you can get together 25 votes, then they’ll nominate you. They have advised us not to put up any actor, unless he or she’s known for anything else, because we’ll be wasting our votes! Now how do you like that!? Another thing, where does he good performer come in? It’s a different thing if you have a 2 ½ hour picture and you’re discussing this actor and only that performance – how can you do this on a soap? The worst actor in the world can be brilliant in one scene – it has to be looked at in a broader scope; you have to get a continuity of an actor’s performance on a soap. The Daytime Emmy’s are a raunchy, cheap marketplace that has nothing to do with the honor that should be placed on a beautiful performance.” MORGAN FAIRCHILD: “I’m very apolitical and consider the whole thing very political. And I think anybody on the soaps realizes this.” MICHAEL NOURI: “I have mixed feelings about it. Having been nominated for one was very flattering and having been nominated, I like that part. But there’s something farcical about it: the Academy Awards, all awards. People are judged on the basis of one performance, which says nothing about somebody’s overall character portrayal. I have seen some people come in for just a one-short. I can sense how really good they are, but because of their nervousness, they’re just not relaxed enough to get to what they have to offer. So the criterion for the awards is off-base, I think.” TOM KLUNIS: “In a way I think it’s good and gives recognition to the actor and the medium. I think possibly it’s commercially necessary…” MARIE (MAREE) CHEATHAM: “That’s not high on my list of feelings. How can you judge…If a performer is consistently fine and does something very interesting with very little material…that’s the trick in daytime.” LEWIS ARLT: “No comment.” MILLIE TAGGART: “I think the award for the male performer who won last year’s award was the most valid award ever given. I can’t judge for any others, but Larry is a wonderful, wonderful actor-he’s the best that I’ve ever known.” JOHN CUNNINGHAM: All such awards are really invalid because the only way could really judge whose better for that year, would be if everybody contesting then played the same part. Because to say an apple is better than an orange is crazy. You just can’t do that. That’s why George C. Scott was right to turn down his Oscar. Somebody has to stand up every so often and say it’s a lot of crap.” MILLIE TAGGART: “You can have a wonderful story one year, while someone else is vacuuming…” JOEL HIGGINS: “It’s a very loaded question at this time because there is a furor raging between L.A. and New York about the whole thing and when it gets to the point, it’s silly. You’re no longer awarding someone because they’re the best…You’re awarding them because they live in L.A. or New York. I’m sure anyone who has ever won is talented. But I think there are so many talented people-how you can possibly say this person’s better than that? It depends on the character, what they get to play…a million things. Stack the Emmy’s up against the Pulitzer Prize, where it’s not a group of nominees and only one winner. They say, “We’re going to give 12 of them this year, because these were all good achievements.”” PETER SIMON: “Ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous.” COURTNEY SHERMAN: “I hate the idea. Talk about various aspects of the business, the daytime drama is definitely a field unto itself; there really is a repertory company feeling here. I don’t think it is ever to any one’s advantage to have competition for awards. As dignified as everyone may act about it, I think it’s destructive and silly. It’s different with a play or movie-they’re entities unto themselves, but I find the Emmys offensive. PETER SIMON: “The process of selection is all done on the number of friends you have for votes. And this ridiculous competition now between the two coasts, as to where the Emmys are going to be handed out. I mean, what are they talking about? In a soap, where does the performance end? There are certain people in the shows who have all the gravy and other really fine actors who do nothing but the drudgery. The categories in soaps should be best recap, best getting through a scene without fainting…” COURTNEY SHERMAN: “Not that you can’t be a fine actor sitting and drinking coffee, but is that the scene you’re going to give to the board of judges?” Obviously a lot about the Emmys have changed since 1976. But a lot has stayed the same as well. Too many fine actors, both in Daytime and Primetime have NEVER been nominated. Whole shows are ignored while others are nominated year after year. Love of Life was only nominated for ONE acting award, and that was for Shepperd Strudwick, who has previously been nominated. This year in primetime, Ted Lasso (an excellent show) got many nominations as it has every year, but Ghosts has been ignored again. Different shows, but both excellent. What is your opinion? -
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You are not. I'm so happy that this storyline for Anita is finally showing movement. -
A shame that Santa Barbara lost the Andrades but I wonder what the Dobsons had in mind for them. From what I know of the Joe/Kelly situation, they didn't seem to know what to do with the Perkins. I don't think McConnell in particular gets enough acclaim for what she added to the show. The Dobsons (from what I know of the show) didn't seem to know what to do with Augusta. This was especially true on their second go around but that was also Rauch getting back at her, so who knows? -
Thanks. Some of that sounds even heavier into crime than EON was at that point, although I guess you still had the Vickie/Julian romance and Heather losing her baby. The biggest difference is probably the comfort characters at EON, like Nancy and Mike. Oh, now I think I remember a little about the raciness. Was there something about toes? Considering the short time he was at OLTL, I'm not sure if moving made a big difference for Jameson, but I guess it still helped moving to a show that was seen as being revived around that point. Thanks. I'm sure there are other options listed in Paul's proposed soaps thread, but Lovers & Friends was so hurriedly thrown together it gives the impression NBC was just desperate, flying blind. They took for granted the audience Somerset had in that timeslot. I wonder if one more year might have mattered...probably not, but you always wonder, as that whole thing ended up leading to even more headaches and bad decisions for NBC Daytime. What I might have done is consider moving some AW characters over to Somerset. Trying to figure out who I'd choose...definitely not Iris.
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When the show debuted, Louise Sorel came on like gangbusters. But then in the fifth week, they introduced Lionel, and her star power dimmed. Unfortunately her character became more of a jealous, shrewish wife. Lionel came on like gangbusters after the earthquake, especially in December 1984, but unfortunately after that, they had his character in jail for 2 months, which dimmed his star power. I'm watching late February 1985, and Mason is still dull as dirt. His character hasn't come alive yet. The show is really doing a good job with the Kelly/ Peter stuff, mostly due to the performances. It's too bad they couldn't make Peter this interesting from the beginning. -
5-14 Well, I'm glad I went back and started from Wednesday. I remember watching and reading the comments here. I figured that perhaps rather than what soaps usually do...have an episode focused on other plots while the A story has a day off and is in the background aka Thursdays typically...this show just did it on Wednesday. I still liked it because I'm such a biased Jazmen fan. And I like how the episode continued the various threads from the fallout from the SilkPress/Eva reveal (Eva v Kat being the standout and Eva's continued attempts to find her landing as she is in pariah phase), but I think the problem I found with it was that outside of the above, the show decided not to focus on any B plot, either so the stories outside of the above were C plots. I like Dani and Andre. I like what they are. I like how it has been a slow burn in the background. But of course, at some point it will come out or they will hit the next phase in their story. I have liked that you can see Dani still being herself, but Andre's influence is clear...like when she took his advice and basically parroted him to Pamela a few weeks ago. And she was actually defending her man basically here. And their pillow talk...mmm. They have such chemistry and such built in drama. And well-paced for a C plot. No story is good without some twists and near misses, so I was happy to see that Nicole...even with her dealing with her own feelings which was cool to keep the SilkPress storyline alive...almost figured it out. Yeah, near miss...always lets you know how invested you are.
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And I've said it before, but it's not like the writers can truly go to the well for the Dani/Bill/Hayley story right now. So for now, they can only be developed/explored through individual storylines. Dani has Andre and her growing business. Bill with the trembling hand as well as messing with the Martin/Smitty marriage seem to be his. So Hayley for now is the weak link. She so needs her own storyline. I thought she would continue to try to fight for her place in the community. She still might. But right now, her just following Bill around like an insecure puppy ain't it. And she is still talking about that honeymoon? Ha! I like the June storyline so far. It's something different. And we know I like the good guy/good girl couple of Jacob and Naomi. Because soaps still need good guys. And I'm not sure where it's going...though I love all of you all's theories about it. And that picture...another clue. Everything with Eva the Pariah is giving old school soap, and I love it. Cuz any villain/vixen/anti-heroine has to go through that uphill battle of being accepted when they fall or their schemes are exposed. And she is straight underdog. And I like how realistic it has been so far with some people being able to move forward with her and people being against her for what she did. Unlike some soaps *cough*Y&R*cough* It feels like it could go in any direction and that just feels exciting. And we still have so much plot to play. Laura's accident. SilkPress clearly won't go down without a fight. The rivalry between Eva and Kat. The potential split in opinions on Eva within the Dupree house...especially given what a lot of us think in terms of if Eva is a twin or was switched or something else entirely. And everyone is acting their butts off. And if they aren't, they are definitely growing into it. So far...it's all good. Loved dinner at the Martin/Smitty household. I liked they even kept the C plot with Ty mildly going. And I'm a sucker for a montage involving makeovers and/or hair. Of course, I have to mention the best (for me) C plot of all right now...ANITA!!! Great to see she's finally getting a story slowwwwwly going. Okay, perhaps even too slow for me. lol. But it has been building. But now to see it moving. To get some good solo Vernon/Anita scenes to see their chemistry on display. And then the coda with the phone call...so Sharon ain't happy with her. Can't...and I do mean CAN'T...wait to see how it develops. -
By Contessa Donatella · Posted
DAYS OF OUR LIVES 10-1-1976 Doug & Julie's wedding #1 Taped on 9-16-1976, Episode #2740
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