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AMC and OLTL Canceled! Part 2!

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I visited another board, and a poster there said something that I think is very true: most fans knew deep down this venture would fail, but adopted a confident attitude because they hoped so badly that these soaps would be saved.

I disagree. I believe it was very reasonable for fans to believe the online versions would happen as its not everyday a production company will come along and sign a ten year contract with ABC for these shows. Now we don't know the entire details, my own speculation is that from the begining PP had a grand plan to get all the unions to go along with much lower pay scales and perhaps they got the unions to lower pay scales from tv but not as low as they wanted, and adding up all the costs they decided they couldn't go ahead with the online version of the soaps. Its outrageous for some to imply we believed in something that would never happen, as if we were idiots to believe it could happen, as PP tried their best to do this, at least someone in Hollywood saw the potential for our beloved soap genre, thats something that doesn't happen everyday. I'm grateful they tried hard to do this, no one did a damn thing to save other soaps recently canceled, so at least AMC and OLTL had someone trying to save them.

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hbsguyaHillary B. SmithI want to b careful what I say right now. I am so sad for the fans. I am so sad for all of us who were robbed of the 7 months to plan.

hbsguyaHillary B. SmithI wish there had been more communication. This was not about AFTRA! The guilds and unions were talking.

hbsguyaHillary B. SmithThe endings were changed to accomodate the move. I wish they would have left us alone. So sad!!!!

hbsguyaHillary B. SmithEndings were changed! So unprofessional.

hbsguyaHillary B. SmithYou will al still be satisfied. The ride to the end is still worth it!!! I promise. Meanwhile, LONG LIVE VENICE!!!

hbsguyaHillary B. Smith@sadiesoaper: @hbsguya Do you think it was all a ruse by ABC? ”no but ABC chose this deal. It was on the interrnet."

hbsguyaHillary B. SmithI still feel that ABC will regret this decision.

@hbsguya

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My heart is breaking as I read your tweets!!!!! Still hoping somehow Oprah comes through!!!!”no way! Sorry!

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I love you all! I m sorry! But the show is worth the ride. Enjoy through January!!!

Damn....so PP had the ending changed..that sucks...you know there will be a cliffhanger then just like AMC...suckage.
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I disagree. I believe it was very reasonable for fans to believe the online versions would happen as its not everyday a production company will come along and sign a ten year contract with ABC for these shows.

I should clarify that in my mind, just airing online did not equate to success. In order for the shows to have been successful, they would have had to have lasted an extra five years. (I sincerely doubt many thought that would happen.)

Honestly, as bad as this news is, I'd much rather the venture be a no-go than to see AMC & OLTL move online and look like bargain basement productions (which I always feared would happen). Going out looking like Wheeler's GL was not in the best interest of either soap, or of the genre as a whole.

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Martha Byrne Tweets

So sorry for AMC and OLTL fans. So much to say, but I want to hear all the details before I comment. If anyone is interested.

Here's the deal..Under the current structure of daytime financially it would never have worked online. It's not profitable

There have been successful deals with unions in the past for TV and online productions #fact

You need a company who has a history of online success to make these shows work online

Please know that there ARE people working hard to make this happen. I am one of them.

I will set up a twitter chat so I can answer your questions if you'd like

One last point..I know for a fact that unions have successfully negotiated deals to make many productions happen. See you tonight!

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hbsguyaHillary B. Smith@sadiesoaper: @hbsguya Do you think it was all a ruse by ABC?

Good Lawd, the conspiracy theories are just ridiculous. Soap fans simply don't have that much power. If they did, the shows wouldn't be getting canceled every damn year to begin with.

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Martha Byrne Tweets

So sorry for AMC and OLTL fans. So much to say, but I want to hear all the details before I comment. If anyone is interested.

Here's the deal..Under the current structure of daytime financially it would never have worked online. It's not profitable

There have been successful
deals
with unions in the past for TV and online productions #fact

You need a company who has a history of online success to make these shows
work
online

Please know that there ARE people working hard to make this happen. I am one of them.

I will set up a twitter
chat
so I can answer your questions if you'd like

One last point..I know for a fact that unions have successfully negotiated deals to make many productions happen. See you tonight!

Martha knew this yet the others who signed on from OLTL didnt?? CM doesnt count cause he is a dumbass...lol..he is the only one to sign...lol

Good Lawd, the conspiracy theories are just ridiculous. Soap fans simply don't have that much power. If they did, the shows wouldn't be getting canceled every damn year to begin with.

Marceline I am thinking you are the one responsible for all this......lol.....the whole conspiracy was you wasnt it....lolwink.pngtongue.png

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In an interview I read in SOW about a month ago RC said that he was very mindful of needing to create a satisfying ending for ABC viewers (ie those that weren't going to follow the show online). Which is quite different from Agnes Nixon's "I don't care about wrapping things up on ABC, I care about keeping the show interesting [for the move online]" statement.

Plus OLTL may be able to make changes in post-production....at least in terms of subtracting stuff.

As a sidenote I re-watched the AMC finale (which I was originally was very critical of) for the first time since Sept. 23rd the other night and I liked it....maybe even loved it. Even as the end.

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Martha knew this yet the others who signed on from OLTL didnt??

Most of the people from OLTL who signed were either newbies/teenagers or people who didn't have other options. Plus I remember MEK (AMC) saying that PP's initial offer was "generous" so I'm guessing there were plenty of big promises and (hopefully) signing bonuses. I don't blame them for signing. Easier to trust PP than to hit the audition circuit and face rejection every day.

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They could put text at the bottom of the screen in the last minute saying what would happen next, but I doubt they would go that far.

I think that some actors signed on in hopes that things would work out, and thinking by doing so they and the rest of the team would have jobs if it did happen.

LOL on HBS about being careful in regards to what she says.

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They could put text at the bottom of the screen in the last minute saying what would happen next, but I doubt they would go that far.

I think that some actors signed on in hopes that things would work out, and thinking by doing so they and the rest of the team would have jobs if it did happen.

LOL on HBS about being careful in regards to what she says.

I'm sure she is upset at the way the ending was changed but can't really elaborate or go off on some people....lol

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Marceline I am thinking you are the one responsible for all this......lol.....the whole conspiracy was you wasnt it....lolwink.pngtongue.png

Of course it was. It was ALL me. I am the Puppetmaster. Bow before my evil magnificence!

Never doubt the power of The Divine Miss M!

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I'm not surprised about some endings being changed...

Well ABC doesn't regret anything, they would have to care to regret IMO...

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Well ABC doesn't regret anything, they would have to care to regret IMO...

ABC not only unloaded the shows they didn't care about, they actually made money on the deal by selling the rights to PP. Frons will get a promotion out of this.

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