2 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

I think my favorite one is still Kung Fu Chick. 😂

That was hilarious. I think my favorite might have been Snowglobe Queen. 

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Wasn't it 2002?  The year she only wore velour sweatsuits and UGG's and had that stupid dog?  The only reason I vaguely remember the year is because I wanted funny Jason/Brenda shenanigan's with the Q's a we got that instead.  Why did Frons and Guza like that character so much?  

I stand corrected - it was indeed 2002. I don't think anyone on earth loved Courtney as much as Frons/Guza did. 🤮

Just now, amybrickwallace said:

I stand corrected - it was indeed 2002. I don't think anyone on earth loved Courtney as much as Frons/Guza did. 🤮

And you know, she started out okay.  Her and AJ were pretty good.  She took up so much airtime for those briefs years a 'wham!' killed off like it was nothing lol.   Such an odd character and pairing for Guza/Frons to pick a hill to die on.  I think she probably had the least amount of chemistry with SBu out of all his love interests.

The ONLY time I liked Courtney was when she was with AJ. So, of course, they had to sabatoge the pairing and throw AJ under the bus while they were at it. 😡😡😡😡😡

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by amybrickwallace

4 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

The ONLY time I liked Courtney was when she was with AJ. So, of course, they had to sabatoge the pairing and throw AJ under the bus while they were at it. 😡😡😡😡😡

 

lol same. I liked Courtney with AJ and of course the writing was on the wall. AJ was never given a fair shot as a character under Guza. I know it was easy with 'AJ is a drunken loser' (it was way more than that) but they really took it way too far.

22 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

That was hilarious. I think my favorite might have been Snowglobe Queen. 

HA! I don't remember that one, but I often referred to the collective of Sonny, Carly, Jason and Courtney as The Gruesome Foursome, Not So Fab Four, etc. 😂

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Natalia Livingston was okay.  There were times when I liked her and times I liked her less.   I thought she did really well interacting with friends.  She wasn't one of my favorites and the Sonny stuff was creepy, but time and being killed off brutally heals my old wounds.  I just know some people hated her, and I am more in the meh?  She's fine group.

I am in that group too. In hindsight the supreme irritation I felt towards her was mostly directed at how she was written and how overplayed she was. Add to this things like the Emmy - honestly I still think this is one of the most embarrassing daytime Emmy wins of the past two decades - and I resented her. It was really a time where the writing for "pets" was really skewed and I think our memories associate her with that era (and the horrifying Sonny pairing) more than she herself had earned.
But truth is: she was fine and relatively innocuous. I hate "heroines" on soaps and that's how they were playing her so I would have never warmed to her but she, as an actress, was doing fine. Not Emmy-worthy at all but fine enough that she probably doesn't deserve the collective groaning at her name she gets since. 

Courtney always screamed Chuck Pratt and Frons to me, not as much Guza.

6 hours ago, titan1978 said:

I just rewatched the final part of Endgame thanks to a YouTube recommendation.  Haven’t seen it since it aired.  That was awful in almost every way.  I had kind of blacked out just how bad it was.  I would love to know what Tony Geary’s actual story idea was that they bought and turned into this.  I know he wanted to end the Cassadines, so it was probably more ambitious than the mess we got.

 

Even the background music was over the top and ridiculous.

It was so bad. I'll never forget the music, budget schlock, etc. I once compared the bedroom pillow fight between Geary and RKK to a battle to the death with Elaine Stritch, IIRC.

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

And you know, she started out okay.  Her and AJ were pretty good.  She took up so much airtime for those briefs years a 'wham!' killed off like it was nothing lol.   Such an odd character and pairing for Guza/Frons to pick a hill to die on.  I think she probably had the least amount of chemistry with SBu out of all his love interests.

I'm pretty sure Guza hated Courtney. Frons and Pratt were the ones who pushed her and once Frons lost interest, Guza wasted her without hesitation.

People can have varying opinions on the performers or writing, but I don't think Amber was ever unpopular as Emily, and she was driven off the show early by JFP. And however bad Natalia could get or the writing for her stories, she wasn't a horrible actress and it was a huge mistake killing Emily.

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by Vee

13 minutes ago, Vee said:

I once compared the bedroom pillow fight between Geary and RKK to a battle to the death with Elaine Stritch, IIRC.

Whoa! I missed that. Yikes!

I always loved Stefan- both with Laura and without. It was a huge mistake to lose him I think. Katherine was another story. Like Vee said, I don’t think she ever worked past the original story with Scott and Lucy. She was amusing with the Quartermaines and when she was in the middle of the Ned and Lois, but it was a mistake I think to move her away from that side of the canvas. I think worked best as a foil for the Quartermaines or when she would aggravate Lucy, Felicia, Mac, and characters like that. If they hadn’t been so insistent on her and Stefan, I think they maybe could have used her on Port Charles, especially in the early years. She would have been good there as a thorn in Lucy’s side while trying to get back in Scott’s good graces but alas. It was completely insulting though that Frank Valentini thought he could have Stefan on recurring and just use him once a month. While that works for people like Scott and Bobbie, I don’t think that you can use Stefan like that. 

With the Hardy discussion, GH more than any other show has so many good characters just languishing offscreen. They just see so many of these very viable characters as either radioactive, only allowed onscreen when someone dies, or just best offscreen. They could make people like Sarah, Tommy, Dillon, Tom, etc work but they chose not to. It’s completely baffling. Instead we get Willow, Dev, and an invented character for Roger Howarth. 

Also, I have started a GH episode vault. I’ll still post the 80s to 2000s episodes on YouTube, but I’m  also going to also upload them to this vault, along with pre-80s stuff I don’t really feel like sharing on YouTube. I have all the full years of GH from the mid-80s to mid-2000s and they’ll all go here and to YouTube. The vault will also have the other ABC soaps, AW, Passions, and the UK and Australian soaps. If anybody wants to contribute, just let me know. I’ll post the link to the vault today or tomorrow

1 hour ago, Vee said:

It was so bad. I'll never forget the music, budget schlock, etc. I once compared the bedroom pillow fight between Geary and RKK to a battle to the death with Elaine Stritch, IIRC.

 Hands down one of GH's worst stories. I mean really with all that. 

4 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

Hands down one of GH's worst stories. I mean really with all that. 

Even worse than that silly doll story with Felicia and her girls in 1997? 😂

1 minute ago, amybrickwallace said:

Even worse than that silly doll story with Felicia and her girls in 1997? 😂

Yes.

10 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Even worse than that silly doll story with Felicia and her girls in 1997? 😂

Oh miles worse.  Because that was only Felicia centric.  This was the culmination of years of story, and involved Luke, Laura, Bobbie, Scotty, Roy, Nikolas, Gia, Lucky, Helena, Alexis, Stefan, Stavros, a secret lab under GH, the Ice Princess, and for some reason Jax was there.  And it was awful on so many levels, with laughable production and incredibly awful background music, especially during the fight scenes.  And the level of bad is written across almost all the key actor’s faces, especially Tony and Genie.  
 

This is just the ending of the story, which originally involved blowing up the hospital so JFP could redo the sets, except that real world events caused them to make several changes.

 

Tony and his writing partner had developed a story document called Endgame with the Cassadines, and ABC bought it and ABC, McTavish and JFP changed it so much he started telling everyone in interviews that this wasn’t his story and it was awful.

 

 

@titan1978, your list of characters made me think of how we were chatting earlier about Nikolas and his love interests. No way could I see Tyler with either Gia.