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I know that the GH 1965 Thanksgiving episode exists.... does anyone have it? I would love to trade for that classic episode or watch it ! Thank you!!

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I was thinking about Sonny’s start on the show recently. Running a strip club, providing drugs for people, sleeping with barely legal Karen Wexler. For the most part he has gotten a pass for this, and I think Karen and Jagger leaving pretty soon after that story helped. As did partnering him with Luke, Brenda, and Stone.

But what if Cari Shayne had stayed on the show, and that trajectory had lasted? While not as heinous as what happened between Luke and Laura, it’s still pretty awful. Would the show have had to deal with it down the road like they did when they revisited Luke’s assault? Would they have paired him with Karen? I think that would have been possible at the time if she stayed to expand the issues between Sonny and Jagger and Karen/Jagger. If Karen hadn’t gone to PC and been killed off, but stayed or returned for a long run, would they ever have played out what he did? Maybe even with another girl that danced there?

Even when Labine was there they already made excuses and gave him a pass. I know part of it is Tony Geary did not shy away from the darkest parts of Luke, and relished when they were explored. Maurice doesn’t seem to want to do much of Sonny’s self exploration as far as stories go. I know the recent fake Jagger return used Karen as motivation, but it didn’t ring true.

Lucky, Laura, and Lulu all had stories where they had to come to terms with the darkness within Luke, and their own histories. Sonny’s kids have largely given him a pass, as have Carly and Jason for the most part.

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57 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Even when Labine was there they already made excuses and gave him a pass. I know part of it is Tony Geary did not shy away from the darkest parts of Luke, and relished when they were explored. Maurice doesn’t seem to want to do much of Sonny’s self exploration as far as stories go.

I agree with this. The Spencer vs Cassadine or Spencer/Webber vs Cassadine dynamics has always been great for GH. One of the biggest reasons why the show is so dreary now is because Spencers don't act like Spencers, Cassadines don't act like Cassadines, Webbers don't act like Webbers, and none of them feud with each other anymore.

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