Max....once again, the household ratings and total viewers don't mean a thing. All that means anything is the women 18-49 numbers (and to a lesser extent, women 18-34). In both those areas, OLTL beat TPIR and LMAD handily always, and even The View lately.

Where can the rest of us view these ratings?

That is so awesome. OLTL is on fire right now in the ratings, isn't this the fourth straight week they have gained in viewers?

It would have been awesome if this story helped them beat suck-tastic B&B.

I beg to differ and many here would too. B&B is on fire right now

Wow OLTL on Monday- almost 3.2 million... and almost 700,000 more than GH?? Considering it was hitting 2,000,000 viewers last summer, this is a huge increase.

Overall I think the show is good and what we are seeing now is post-cancellation stories- clearly they dropped some angles (less Fords, just finished up their stories it seems)- the RHTodd/Starr/Viki/Jess scenes have been good- but I also like the Matthew/Destiny/Nora/Bo story that's kicking up now... and the Rama/Vimal side story

This is so awesome too see OLTL kicking ass in the ratings. I love it that both OLTL and AMC went up again in the ratings year over year in total viewers. PP should be happy to see that both shows still generate interest.

The thing is I would look at this as a business person. Fan OUTCRY/UPSETNESS does not uncancel a show or ever do merit. NUMBERS DO NOT LIE, and If I were a business person examining ratings, I would start to wonder if I made a mistake here. We have to look at this from a business standpoint here an executive you don't cancel a show with rising numbers to this extent. Honestly from a business standpoint cancelling OLTL was a mistake, it also killed any chance of there Chew succeeding. If ABC had been smart they would have cancelled AMC only and waited a bit. Instead they comitted suicide by killing two shows at once in a disguting vile way. If I would have been ABC I would have cancelled AMC only and waited a bit. First also to see how the Chew was doing and I don't think fans would have been as angry or mad. We all knew AMC was on its last legs out the door. It would have been sad but I would have understood but the complete disregard to and disrespect Brian Frons showed us was boardline DIGUSTING/WRONG on ever level.

OLTL only has ONE good storyline and that's Todd vs Todd. The only reason ratings are peaking is because obviously people are interested in the return of RH and to see how the story plays out. Take that away and OLTL is still the same soulless show it's always been. People using these ratings as justification for ABC not to cancel these shows is laughable.

"Always?"

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Leo's mini return did squat for AMC's ratings on Friday. Days still limping along. GH lost viewers yet gained HH...I'll never understand that from Nielsen...lol It will be interesting how much OLTL will maintain next next. I see them dropping big next week. Monday's show was good minus the whole Rex carrying a gun scenes.

The thing is I would look at this as a business person. Fan OUTCRY/UPSETNESS does not uncancel a show or ever do merit. NUMBERS DO NOT LIE, and If I were a business person examining ratings, I would start to wonder if I made a mistake here. We have to look at this from a business standpoint here an executive you don't cancel a show with rising numbers to this extent. Honestly from a business standpoint cancelling OLTL was a mistake, it also killed any chance of there Chew succeeding. If ABC had been smart they would have cancelled AMC only and waited a bit. Instead they comitted suicide by killing two shows at once in a disguting vile way. If I would have been ABC I would have cancelled AMC only and waited a bit. First also to see how the Chew was doing and I don't think fans would have been as angry or mad. We all knew AMC was on its last legs out the door. It would have been sad but I would have understood but the complete disregard to and disrespect Brian Frons showed us was boardline DIGUSTING/WRONG on ever level.

If I were a business person I would look at the demos and see despite all the viewer increase they have dropped or stayed the same. Thats all the advertisers who pay the bills care about. NOw online could be a difference animal I have no clue but it will likely work to their advantage.

I want to say I think its great that OLTL is getting a resurge and that there is some stability with Y&R and B&B but peolpe look at the demos. I will never understand this idea that these shows are doing that great when the demos, which is what the advertisers look at, are still atrocious even for Y&R.

Even in primetime shows like Without a Trace and Cold Case were regularly getting 10-12 million viewers but their demos dropped so the shows were cancelled. Is it fair? no but its business.

Does anyone ever ask themselves why younger women, new younger viewers are not tuning into these soaps? Is it the timeslot, the content, the fact that the writing for the women stink in a genre that is primarily viewed by women?

OLTL only has ONE good storyline and that's Todd vs Todd. The only reason ratings are peaking is because obviously people are interested in the return of RH and to see how the story plays out. Take that away and OLTL is still the same soulless show it's always been. People using these ratings as justification for ABC not to cancel these shows is laughable.

I agree mostly with the part in bold, if you took away the two Todd's story, the show would be nothing. RC timed Gigi's death/departure with the two Todd's reveal perfectly, because I suspect that after Gigi's death, the show would have quickly lost all momentum in the ratings.

If PP is really smart they would use TSJ as an antagonist to RH to keep the momentum since that's all this show has going for it.

Yep, if only TSJ hadn't bolted from the show.

Yup! Slow moving, big storylines involved main characters can get ratings. Those are two great examples.

Soap Opera Writing 101. Bell, Reilly, Marland, Slesar, all mastered this, sad that so few of today's soap scribes don't understand this.

Good for OLTL. OLTL, AMC, and B&B all up in their key demo while Y&R and GH are stagnant and Days down. Not that week to week means much or that any of this does anymore. Needless to say I think OLTL is carrying that lineup these days. It proves that a good compelling story involving compelling characters(Todd on OLTL, Sami/Nicole - the baby switch on Days) pulls people in not big names(Vanessa or Genie) or events which don't keep people engaged for the long haul.

OLTL is carrying the ABC daytime lineup. Due to OLTL's success in the ratings, AMC's ratings have stabilized a bit. Unfortunately for GH, not many people are staying tuned in to see what comes on after OLTL everyday.

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As others have said I only tune into One Life for the Todd story...There was a day I think last week or so where they weren't featured and I ended up turning the show off..There is NO other story that interests me at all..I want to care about Matthew but when you aren't using Eddie Alderson, I have no interest.

I want to say I think its great that OLTL is getting a resurge and that there is some stability with Y&R and B&B but peolpe look at the demos. I will never understand this idea that these shows are doing that great when the demos, which is what the advertisers look at, are still atrocious even for Y&R.

Even in primetime shows like Without a Trace and Cold Case were regularly getting 10-12 million viewers but their demos dropped so the shows were cancelled. Is it fair? no but its business.

Does anyone ever ask themselves why younger women, new younger viewers are not tuning into these soaps? Is it the timeslot, the content, the fact that the writing for the women stink in a genre that is primarily viewed by women?

I loved both shows. It's a shame we wont see CC on DVD anytime soon. At least I have the first 2 seasons of WAT on DVD.

omg OMG omg OLTL is kicking ass and taking names to the bank. WAS ABC CRAZY TO CANCEL THIS SHOW? The show is hotter then ever and it continues a 16 week beating GH. Thats four months guys and the show is so strong. OLTL is too good for the web. IMO OLTL should be a primetime show, I would tune into watch it. Props to Frank and Ron they are just going out on TOP and with a huge bang. ITS UNBELIEVABLE HOW OLTL is leaving other soaps in the dust.

Jonnys, you KILL me! In a good way. The show is doing well and I am thrilled.

Jonnys, you KILL me! In a good way.

I agree.....lol

Its more because this was a story waiting to be told. I'd venture to guess if RH just came in and replaced TSJ you would not have gotten any uptic. And while I adore VM, what story was waiting to be told with her return? Reuniting with Sonny? Who cared about that? I say the same for Genie Francis if she came back. GH already played their big return stories, in 2002 when Brenda came back from the dead and that did raise ratings and when Laura came out of her vegitative state for the 25th anniv wedding. Even Laura's permanent recovery did nothing for ratings when they sent Laura off to France. They already played the bring old vets back with Robert, Anna, Felicia in years past.

For GH all they can do is bring a Q back from the dead like AJ. What other cards to they have? But then AJ was not a hugely popular character and I don't think Alan at this stage coming back from the dead would do squat. They had the chance with Emily a couple of years back and went another riduculous route. Even bringing original Carly back to play another character did squat.

2 Todds has been a story RC talked about and its finally playing out. And the pace had been decent and it involves all their lead actors for the most part. Even John McBain is half interesting again.

I think the biggest mistake in bringing back the vets to GH was that they were totally unrecognizable. Rick Webber was made into a murderer. Holly Scorpio was a bioterrorist tart. Robert, Anna and Felicia were deadbeat parents. Suddenly, Scotty was obsessed with Laura and didn't remember Dominique. And I kept scratching my head when I saw this FauxBrenda on my screen. Fans HATED the vet returns because they were so unrecognizable. Guza is simply a hack.

I think if GW would bring back the big vets, repaired the damage, and wrote them in character, ratings would go up.

On another note, I'm thrilled for OLTL. They continue to kick butt in the ratings!