Members Money Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 People have selective memories in their need to act like RHTodd wasn't capable of everything TSJTodd did. Apparently showing "remorse" makes all the difference in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted August 5, 2011 Administrator Share Posted August 5, 2011 Geez...the battles continues. Such nonsense to try to say who was worse. Anyway, great cliffhanger today! Loved the RHT/Starr scenes. Young Starr was so much more interesting than teen Starr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 Well Higley's execution story for one. That whole thing had him reflecting about the awful things he had done in his life and expressing remorse. When he reunited with Tea last year he expressed remorse for the awful treatment he gave her over the previous months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 Thanks. You're right and I admit, I liked this version of Todd at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Money Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 Didn't he also apologize to Marty for the rapemance? If my memory is correct, he attempted suicide because Marty said it would make her happy and she would finally be free of him. Even after that he tried to make amends, but Marty wanted none of it. He did show remorse and admitted he raped her a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 He did, but I didn't buy that at all. I was hoping he would jump, but no dice. Again, that whole rapemance was one big cluster@#$% that should not have been written at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'm not the Todd history expert that some of you are, but I think a lot of this remorseful vs. apathetic Todd stuff may come down to RH's and TSJ's approaches to the role more than to the writing itself. RH always played Todd's anger with this on the verge of tears mania which conveyed hurt (and may have *looked* more remorseful than it actually was at times), but nonetheless, telegraphed a glimpse of humanity to the viewer. TSJ is not one to tip Todd's emotional hand a-tall as his sister would say. He is one to deadpan and if there are hints of sub-textual hurt or self-doubt in his choices, you more than likely have to go digging for them. His Todd armor is up and strong with the occasional outbursts like screaming someone's head off or kicking Cole's ass. TSJ's Todd's cool looks like (and may very well be at times) laziness that some fans complain about. I've said this before, but TSJ is Todd on reefer while RH is Todd on coke. And interestingly enough, TSJ's approach to the role for the past eight or so years now serves where it looks like this story is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 He did jump. He killed himself bc he thought it was the only way to atone for what he had done to Marty. I thought that was the ultimate sign of remorse....sacrificing his life to give her some peace and happiness after what he had done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reallyhateskateonlost Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 UGH. McPain needs to shut his yap when it comes to loving and defending brothers. Viki shouldn't have to explain anything that idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 Forgot about that. Ugh! That's how ridiculous that whole thing was. I'm not sorry the whole dumb thing as far as T.M. is concerned didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted August 5, 2011 Members Share Posted August 5, 2011 When that stuff originally aired, I honetly thought the show should have killed Todd off. They could have always resurrected him down the line, but he needed to die then and I was upset that he survived that fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted August 6, 2011 Administrator Share Posted August 6, 2011 Come on guys, stop posting a link to the youtube page!!! I don't want it to be taken down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted August 6, 2011 Members Share Posted August 6, 2011 what are you talking about? We cant post youtube videos anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted August 6, 2011 Administrator Share Posted August 6, 2011 Youtube pages that post new full episodes get taken down if the networks/studios find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted August 6, 2011 Members Share Posted August 6, 2011 I was happy he lived ...I was tired of his moping and weeping during that time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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