I'm a fan of both RH and TSJ's Todd. And yes they do exist as I venture to guess majority of offliners feel the same way.

RH is doing very good with the emotional material but RC is writing him as a wimpy, gentle sad litttle [!@#$%^&*] and that's not his strengths as Todd Manning. He does rage, violence and scary ass alpha stuff much better.

Ironically today both RH and TSJ were delivering emotional vulnerable portrayals of Todd. I found both compelling.

FL is the one really impressing me. She's knocking her material out of the park. KA is doing good work but ES fell a little flat to me today and TK/KDP are just bores.

They are making RH Todd as this big saint....how his life was ruined..blah..blah blah.....really...if he is Todd....he did rape Marty..the dude is a rapist..not some hero.

They are making RH Todd as this big saint....

Exactly who is doing that? Tell me, please.

I see they explained why Tomas had the syringe in Todd's room.

I see they explained why Tomas had the syringe in Todd's room.

How?

Exactly who is doing that? Tell me, please.

Seriously, I am going to start putting you on ignore ...cause your posts are coming off snarky once again. The whole RH pimping on the ratings thread and here is sickening. That's not why the ratings went up. Had he stayed as Todd all these years the ratings still would be in the shits.....It's the actually two Todds that has viewers watching......

How?

I was gonna say, what did I miss? He said he was trying to save Todd from the gunman so the syringe thing is still up in the air

Seriously, I am going to start putting you on ignore ...cause your posts are coming off snarky once again. The whole RH pimping on the ratings thread and here is sickening. That's not why the ratings went up. Had he stayed as Todd all these years the ratings still would be in the shits.....It's the actually two Todds that has viewers watching......

Wow! I thought we were past that, Soapsuds. I only asked a question. I really wanted to know. Let be honest, you're posts about OLTL are pretty bitter and hateful, but I take with a grain of salt. I'm wondering where all these people are that think that Todd is a saint. I understand you don't like RH, but as Vee pointed it out earlier. It's overkill. Just as you took were outspoken in defense of ATWT, that how I am with this show.

Edited August 4, 201114 yr by MontyB

How?

When he said after Todd was shot he had snuck in his hospital room to take a blood sample.

Edited August 5, 201114 yr by Toups

They are making RH Todd as this big saint....how his life was ruined..blah..blah blah.....really...if he is Todd....he did rape Marty..the dude is a rapist..not some hero.

I don't see RH being written as a saint.

But he's being written as REDEEMED by victimization in much the same way Marty was, ironically enough. He's become the poor victim who had his life wrecked and awwwwwwwwww queue the violins for this poor lost, confused soul.

And sadly this writing reminds of why I quit watching his Paul Ryan as that type of character does not play to RH's strength as an actor. He became famous and made Todd so iconic b/c he excels as scary kick ass alpha living on a razor's edge between utter villain and anti-hero. There is nothing whatsoever intimidating about his current Todd and I find that disappointing. I guess that man did leave the building in 98 and has never returned.

Todd became increasingly woobified starting around 1994, once they decided he had to save Marty, they had the saccharine recasts of CJ and Sarah idolizing him, etc. Then it became long-suffering, kooky Todd.

I think that RH's return works mostly to clean up the damage done over the last 2-3 years, but I think it's for the best that this story probably won't carry on to Prospect Park, because I don't know where they'll take RHTodd once this story has ended.

I think that RH's return works mostly to clean up the damage done over the last 2-3 years.

I'm gonna agree. Overall, I like RC, but he's made some serious missteps. I'm probably gonna get a beat down for this one, but I think Higley handled the character a little better.

When he said after Todd was shot he had snuck in his hospital room to take a blood sample.

I'm still missing the mention. Time stamp?

Edited August 5, 201114 yr by Toups

But he's being written as REDEEMED by victimization in much the same way Marty was, ironically enough. He's become the poor victim who had his life wrecked and awwwwwwwwww queue the violins for this poor lost, confused soul.

And sadly this writing reminds of why I quit watching his Paul Ryan as that type of character does not play to RH's strength as an actor.

Exactly. I loathed him as Paul. I hate that he was paid big bucks to do [!@#$%^&*] work as Paul.

I'm still missing the mention. Time stamp?

It is at the very beginning of the clip... LOL. Blair asked who the real Todd Manning was and Tomas said he wasn't sure. When Todd was in a coma he tried to get a blood sample but was interrupted. (Dani and Nate)

Edited August 5, 201114 yr by Eric83

Todd became increasingly woobified starting around 1994, once they decided he had to save Marty, they had the saccharine recasts of CJ and Sarah idolizing him, etc. Then it became long-suffering, kooky Todd.

I agreed with RH back in 1995, Malone rewrote his character totally into a romanticized Todd Lord guy in 1995.

RH rightfully walked out in disgust and insisted in 1996 on resurrecting the darker Todd Manning. He came back with vengeance in his heart and proceeded to wreak havoc. He was vulnerable, angst-ridden but also a total SOB who hurt everyone in his path. RH won best villain in 1998 because that year Todd was a force to be reckoned with in Llanview:-)

However, starting in 2000, he became a running GAG of a character nicknamed GOOF. He had a few good dark moments like torturing Blair repeatedly and the Max buried scenes but mostly he was Jack Tripper, a total joke.

Now RH is written with all the vulnerability and angst but without any of the darkness, rage or fierceness. He's the poor, gentle lost soul instead of the vengeance is MINE sayeth Todd Manning I and many fans were told was coming back.

It's a real disappointment.

Edited August 5, 201114 yr by TeamEric