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I said something similar to that in my report......I included a spoiler. ;)

I meant the day the Todds come face to face, not his last filming date. Weird that they're the same.

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I meant the day the Todds come face to face, not his last filming date. Weird that they're the same.

Me too...I mentioned it at the end of my report.....

How this decision will affect the ongoing "Tale of Two Todds" storyline, which also features the recently returned Roger Howarth (who originated the role in 1992), remains to be seen, however fans can expect the storyline to heat up in the coming weeks as the two "Todds" finally come face-to-face.

http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/soaps/oltl/news/item/4960-st-john-to-fans-oltl-to-press-on-without-me

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After Robin's early exit was announced, it's impossible for me to get worked up about anyone else ducking out early (save for Erika and of course that won't be happening). I like TSJ and I accepted his Todd easier than a lot of people were willing to accept JVD as Clint. That said, I just didn't like Todd much of the time. I am kind of in a resigned space where I know that everyone in the cast is gonna go eventually and I'm a little numb to all of the bits of casting news. If I'm preparing myself for anything, it's the idea of Ford and Jess/Tess eating the finale... that just cannot happen.

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I think it's both a shame and not. I can live with it, certainly, because I think TSJ ceased being Todd some time ago and became someone else entirely. I wholeheartedly supported the recast, and loved him in the role for years until the stories turned awful and he began phoning it in, with the intermittent flourish of genius - not unlike Howarth's run, which is why I was happy to see him go in 2003. But I think St. John was never terribly into kind of overly schmoopy romantic material, which is what they gave him too much of from the start. He preferred to delve into the dank psychology of the character, which is compelling, but which they often couldn't write for, and so it made many of his more supposedly sincere stories ring hollow, especially in the last five years. Especially Todd and Tea's reunion - she got him off a rape charge and we're supposed to consider them the truest love? TSJ seemed to thumb his nose at that conceit, as well he should've, though his and Lozano's chemistry is electric. He couldn't or wouldn't imbue Todd with humanity and pathos in the midst of terrible or character-ruining storylines, and instead either twisted it or phoned it in. While that was often very watchable when he did [[email protected]#$%^&*] with it, it did not add up to a character to care for, yet OLTL promoted him as a hero. That's not his fault.

As slow and at times lame as this storyline has been, it has meant a lot to me to see a Todd Manning (Howarth's) I can actually care about, believe in and invest in again as anything other than a villain for the first time in a long time. RH came back energized, so it works. To have the rapemance undone means more than I can say to me as a longtime fan of the character. The Todd they spent years trying to rebuild - with many mistakes along the way, sure - would never do that, ever, and if he did he would have to die like a dog.

I do think TSJ is very talented, and has done very well with some dark material. He also plays against anything cozy or nice or unearned - like Todd's "redemption" in the last couple years - and when he is going for the dangerous sociopath stuff he does very, very well, I think. He's just brilliantly creepy. And I think were the show going on - or not - they could've gone on for years with TSJ turning out to be Todd's scheming long-lost fraternal twin or something, this manipulative, vampiric, somewhat more subtly, insidiously evil type than RH's Todd's blunter approach. You could've played them and their relationships with the family off each other for years, that rivalry. But am I crying that he's going with the show off? No. I am really looking forward to seeing how it all shakes out, though.

On another note, I have my doubts Sam will leave with TSJ, whatever becomes of him, which means he would be in Llanview with Blair and most likely a reunion with Todd. And as I've said before, that would make me very, very happy as an ultimate resolution to the baby Jack storyline.

I completely agree with that statement.

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On a side note, I guess we know when the opening is going to get its final update.

If this was purely financial, I'm sure they'll attempt to use his presumably expensive salary towards some fan favorite returns. I mean, I can't imagine the final four months of the show will feature ONLY Todd/Blair, Bo/Nora, Clint/Viki, John/Natalie, Ford/Jessica, Matthew/Destiny, Rex/Shane, and Starr/whomever.

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Wow. I am surprised.

I never bought or liked TSJ as Todd in any way, but I have always thought he was a very good actor, and was looking forward to seeing him as someone, anyone other than Todd so I could really enjoy him on OLTL before the end. I've sort of felt that way since RH has been back on screen, but I figured the fall-out of the Two Todds story, whatever it was, would give both actors a lot to work with and I wanted to see TSJ bring it. I'm sure he still will when the two FINALLY come face-to-face, but I was thinking he'd be around until January. I wonder how this will affect FL and Tea, as I assumed she would wind up with TSJ!Todd while Blair reunited with RH!Todd. Hmmm...

I also wonder (but I'm sure we'll never know) what the exact timing of all this stuff was back in, say, March and April. TSJ deciding not to re-sign for a regular/full-term contract after pilot season and the coma storyline, RH deciding officially to finally return, and the show getting cancelled. Did RH come back and/or did TSJ choose not to re-sign because either or both had at least an inkling of the cancellation? Did TSJ know for certain that RH was returning before he made his choice to do a short-term deal? Did RH think TSJ would be sticking around? I'd think that all of those things happening in such close proximity to one another, whatever the precise order and whatever everyone knew about everything else, had to throw a lot of this (and the subsequent storyline) into no small amount of chaos.

I'm sure TSJ will land on his feet. I'm sorry to see him go early. I hope this means we get more time of RH as Todd and dealing with that since the Two Todds aspect of the storyline now can't go past September. Should be interesting.

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This is just wrong. There is no reason the show could not have accommodated both TSJ and RH; in fact, it would have been fun to watch their rivalry post-reveal -- not to mention their ongoing relationships with all of Todd's family, friends, and enemies. The show is writing off too many veterans as it is, but they're making a huge mistake in writing out TSJ. I'm looking forward to whatever he does next

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I still believe OLTL beg RH to sign back on, & he said no. They brought up that they will be getting cancel in January. & that's when RH agree. RH I believe didn't like the role of Todd or maybe the pairing with Blair.

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i don't understand all the fuss about RH -- he ain't all that.

i prefer TSJ, too.

You got that backwards, TSJ ain't all that, I'm glad he's gone, I got tired of his phoning it in years ago. He and RC both have ruined the Todd character

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I'm very upset about this...I'm a huge TSJ fan and if they somehow undo him as Todd, it won't be ballsy it'll be stupid. Even this past week while talking to Tea he mentioned how he felt like he was channeling his father...just little things like that which are stupid if you're just some imposter....Anyway..I'm sure whomever he ends up being will go psycho around August and be dead by the end of September, that's just how One Life works these days...Good riddance to this show.

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I'm a huge TSJ fan and if they somehow undo him as Todd ....

People still think there's an "if" about this?

(TSJ's Todd) mentioned how he felt like he was channeling his father...just little things like that which are stupid if you're just some imposter

Really? It's "stupid" for an imposter to verbally connect with the history of who he's impersonating? I'd think it would alert the suspicions of loved-ones should such conversations not occur... but hey, that's just me.

As I've said before, for me it was never about who "deserves" to be Todd, or which actor is better, or whose fan club I belong to. It's always been about what were the best story possibilities to come out of it.

I'm actually sorry that TSJ won't be there to further play-out the family conflict of which Todd (which dad, husband, etc) is "real" to characters like Dani, Starr, Blair, Jack, Tea, and Viki... I don't know if he had any objections himself to his *not* playing Todd (a development which he basically outed before RH ever re-appeared on-screen - certainly not to the pleasing of TPTB). But I always knew what would be "stupid" - and frankly, a waste of viewers' time - is if they had brought back RH to have him be some plastic-surgery-altered ice cream man who was just there to irritate people because he had Todd's "old face."

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People still think there's an "if" about this?

Really? It's "stupid" for an imposter to verbally connect with the history of who he's impersonating? I'd think it would alert the suspicions of loved-ones should such conversations not occur... but hey, that's just me.

As I've said before, for me it was never about who "deserves" to be Todd, or which actor is better, or whose fan club I belong to. It's always been about what were the best story possibilities to come out of it.

I'm actually sorry that TSJ won't be there to further play-out the family conflict of which Todd (which dad, husband, etc) is "real" to characters like Dani, Starr, Blair, Jack, Tea, and Viki... I don't know if he had any objections himself to his *not* playing Todd (a development which he basically outed before RH ever re-appeared on-screen - certainly not to the pleasing of TPTB). But I always knew what would be "stupid" - and frankly, a waste of viewers' time - is if they had brought back RH to have him be some plastic-surgery-altered ice cream man who was just there to irritate people because he had Todd's "old face."

Nevermind.

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I think TSJ was fully on the "let me play the imposter" train, it will give him great material. Can't we assume that TSJ was on the way out regardless of the cancellation? It was just a matter of when. His contract was simply up, which they had already asked him to renew on a short-term basis. I don't think it's as offensive as people are making it out to be. I'm sure Trevor was like "hey I'm here if you want me" in a casual manner but I don't think he's too heartbroken about going early either seeing as how he says he wasn't fired. It makes sense they want to focus on core characters/couples and since TSJ is the imposter, he doesn't fit with that vision, no matter how long he's been on the show. Plus, I think it's all down to finances at this point. They probably need all the money they can get to bring back a few fan favorites.

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I'm REALLY going to miss Trevor.. He is a great actor and truly embodied the complex role of Todd Manning over the last 6-7 years. This really sucks.

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