1 hour ago, yrfan1983 said:

I was out exercising this morning, and my thoughts kept circling back to Victor and Nikki, and I realized I still have nagging questions...  (only on a soap forum could people understand that I would be out exercising and thinking of vintage '90s Young and the Restless 😂🤣)

I recently watched summer '96. Nikki was vulnerable with Victor and made it clear she was open to a reconciliation. IMO he seemed totally disinterested. Like, he had moved on from that chapter in his life. Hope straight-up asks Victor if he will remarry Nikki, and he replies, "I don't see that happening"

So I guess my question is - when does Victor re-discover his love for Nikki? Is it before Nikki is shot, or is it because Nikki is shot and on death's door?

Lol, most days at work all I think about are soaps!  I always do an inventory list in my head of what episodes of Classic Y&R we have so far, how much of the episode we have, and what is still missing from certain years…lol I just get bored easily 

2 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

I was out exercising this morning, and my thoughts kept circling back to Victor and Nikki, and I realized I still have nagging questions...  (only on a soap forum could people understand that I would be out exercising and thinking of vintage '90s Young and the Restless 😂🤣)

I recently watched summer '96. Nikki was vulnerable with Victor and made it clear she was open to a reconciliation. IMO he seemed totally disinterested. Like, he had moved on from that chapter in his life. Hope straight-up asks Victor if he will remarry Nikki, and he replies, "I don't see that happening"

So I guess my question is - when does Victor re-discover his love for Nikki? Is it before Nikki is shot, or is it because Nikki is shot and on death's door?

Hah, once I was driving around my neighborhood, and only a couple of blocks from my house I saw a man jogging in a Y&R shirt! I swear I almost pulled over. 😅

 

Pretty sure Victor realized it after she'd been shot. There are scenes of him in the hospital reminiscing about Nikki with some early 80s scenes.

30 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Hah, once I was driving around my neighborhood, and only a couple of blocks from my house I saw a man jogging in a Y&R shirt! I swear I almost pulled over. 😅

 

Pretty sure Victor realized it after she'd been shot. There are scenes of him in the hospital reminiscing about Nikki with some early 80s scenes.

Ha! Could that have been me...?? 🤣

That's so funny that Victor remembers his love for Nikki, while she is in the hospital bed, b/c that's exactly what happened in winter '92 as she was recovering from the back surgery and her addiction... he kept having visions of her, which were kinda awkward as they seemed to lean a bit "Victoria's Secret"/almost pornographic...

5 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

Ha! Could that have been me...?? 🤣

That's so funny that Victor remembers his love for Nikki, while she is in the hospital bed, b/c that's exactly what happened in winter '92 as she was recovering from the back surgery and her addiction... he kept having visions of her, which were kinda awkward as they seemed to lean a bit "Victoria's Secret"/almost pornographic...

Now I am rewatching the german episodes from 1986. Victor wants a divorce from Nikki for months now. But Casey told him Nikki is ill in will be dying, so Victor is in love with Nikki again. The same pattern.

I'm really often thinking about the stories of Y&R.

At the moment I hate Kay. Oh she was so in love with Phillip, but as I know was she drinking for years and sleeping with other men. Yes, that was a very big love.

Jill is so a bad person, but Dina is so a good person. Dina had an affair  which resulted in Ashley. She left a husband with 3 children without speaking first to John. Then she tried to kill the father of Ashley. But Kay thinks Dina is good for John and Jill is the devil.

Edited August 19, 20223 yr by Bundy1965

20 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

I was out exercising this morning, and my thoughts kept circling back to Victor and Nikki, and I realized I still have nagging questions...  (only on a soap forum could people understand that I would be out exercising and thinking of vintage '90s Young and the Restless 😂🤣)

I recently watched summer '96. Nikki was vulnerable with Victor and made it clear she was open to a reconciliation. IMO he seemed totally disinterested. Like, he had moved on from that chapter in his life. Hope straight-up asks Victor if he will remarry Nikki, and he replies, "I don't see that happening"

So I guess my question is - when does Victor re-discover his love for Nikki? Is it before Nikki is shot, or is it because Nikki is shot and on death's door?

Even up to around Jan or Feb 98, Nikki and Victor were not on good terms. After Nikki learned Diane wanted a baby and Victor wasn't really interested. Nikki turned up at a party Diane and Victor had thrown (it was some big deal but I can't remember what it was) and announced she and Joshua were planning to start a family, sticking it to Diane and ruining her party. Victor was furious with her. The shooting happened only a few weeks later and Victor was suddenly in love with her again. 

17 hours ago, Bundy1965 said:

Now I am rewatching the german episodes from 1986. Victor wants a divorce from Nikki for months now. But Casey told him Nikki is ill in will be dying, so Victor is in love with Nikki again. The same pattern.

I'm really often thinking about the stories of Y&R.

At the moment I hate Kay. Oh she was so in love with Phillip, but as I know was she drinking for years and sleeping with other men. Yes, that was a very big love.

Jill is so a bad person, but Dina is so a good person. Dina had an affair  which resulted in Ashley. She left a husband with 3 children without speaking first to John. Then she tried to kill the father of Ashley. But Kay thinks Dina is good for John and Jill is the devil.

Yeah, Katherine/Dina’s friendship was a little bizarre at times. All 3 women aren’t too different from one another, but I guess if Dina had tried to steal Phillip from Katherine, she would have made it her mission to make Dina’s life as miserable as she did Jill’s. That always seems to be a double standard with Katherine where unless she’s wronged by somebody like she felt she was with Jill all those years, she can commiserate with woman who have actually done far worse and left their family behinds like Dina, because Katherine was also that bored and unhappy wealthy society wife for all those years too.

 

 

1 hour ago, YRfan23 said:

Yeah, Katherine/Dina’s friendship was a little bizarre at times. All 3 women aren’t too different from one another, but I guess if Dina had tried to steal Phillip from Katherine, she would have made it her mission to make Dina’s life as miserable as she did Jill’s. That always seems to be a double standard with Katherine where unless she’s wronged by somebody like she felt she was with Jill all those years, she can commiserate with woman who have actually done far worse and left their family behinds like Dina, because Katherine was also that bored and unhappy wealthy society wife for all those years too.

 

 

i feel like by Dec '91, Katherine saw how Dina could be shady... lying about her fake illness being the reason she stayed away for so many years. But by Jan '96, Katherine was happy to summon Dina back to Genoa City...

Edited August 20, 20223 yr by yrfan1983

3 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

i feel like by Dec '91, Katherine saw how Dina could be shady... lying about her fake illness being the reason she stayed away for so many years. But by Jan '96, Katherine was happy to summon Dina back to Genoa City...

Yes, Katherine didn’t seem that impressed with Dina for lying about her illness, haha. I could be wrong but they don’t seem to really mention that in 1996, so I guess naturally Katherine wouldn’t bring that up either? 

Ok, I dug through the SOC yearly recaps to figure out what happened to Victor and Nikki’s ’98 remarriage…

•    Summer ’98 – Diane reveals she is still legally married to Victor. Somehow this is resolved and V&N resume their marriage
•    Spring ’99 – they are separated when Victor is kidnapped. Victor bonds with Ramona and Nikki reconnects with Brad
•    Summer and fall ’99 – V&N’s relationship deteriorates as Victor won’t have his vasectomy reversed to have another child with Nikki, and later she is betrayed to find out about his sperm sample. Brad tries to lure Nikki away and Ramona continues to lurk around.
•    2000 – Nikki separates from Brad, and is still married to Victor but their relationship is shaky. He is betrayed by Nikki bailing out Jabot from bankruptcy. I assume their divorce is processed sometime late 2000?
•    2001 – not much V&N romance, they are occupied with other stories
•    Spring ’02 – V&N reconnect, and Victor goes on his journey of self-discovery, revisiting his prior loves
•    Sept ’02 – V&N remarry again. I won’t dig through the archives to figure out when they next divorce, but I know by 2005, Nikki is dating Bobby. Oh yea and Victor kissing Sharon in ’03 prob didn’t help matters.

2 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

Yeah, Katherine/Dina’s friendship was a little bizarre at times. All 3 women aren’t too different from one another, but I guess if Dina had tried to steal Phillip from Katherine, she would have made it her mission to make Dina’s life as miserable as she did Jill’s. That always seems to be a double standard with Katherine where unless she’s wronged by somebody like she felt she was with Jill all those years, she can commiserate with woman who have actually done far worse and left their family behinds like Dina, because Katherine was also that bored and unhappy wealthy society wife for all those years too.

 

 

And in 1986 Kay is trying to steal Philip - Jill's son.

What was the point of the Audrey North character? They hired Constance Towers for... that? 

Did something happen backstage?

On 8/19/2022 at 4:14 PM, Bundy1965 said:

At the moment I hate Kay. Oh she was so in love with Phillip, but as I know was she drinking for years and sleeping with other men. Yes, that was a very big love.

Jill is so a bad person, but Dina is so a good person. Dina had an affair  which resulted in Ashley. She left a husband with 3 children without speaking first to John. Then she tried to kill the father of Ashley. But Kay thinks Dina is good for John and Jill is the devil.

 

Two classic Y&R tiktoks come to mind when reading this

1. Jill and Dina, with Dina really trying to stick it to Jill

And 2 a great scene of Liz Foster finally throwing it back at Kay.  I always remember Liz as being a rather put-upon somewhat weak woman, so it always pleases me when she speaks her mind. 

But, for pete's sake Liz, don't let Kay drive you anywhere!

 

Edited August 21, 20223 yr by j swift

6 hours ago, j swift said:

But, for pete's sake Liz, don't let Kay drive you anywhere!

Well It was the Robert Kay's Driver who would take her lol

 

I often wonder if part of the CBS daytime marketing campaign was to create obtuse taglines so that they stuck in the audience's head.

I mean what the heck is a Y&R minute?

30 years later, I'm still trying to figure out how in the heat of the day, there's a different kind of fire?

And what lyrical genius thought it was enticing to remind us that in the heat of the day, it's hot?

Edited August 21, 20223 yr by j swift