2 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

I hope you got a chance to view the 1982 shows!  I would love to hear your thoughts since you saw all of that goodness live back then! 

 

I am saving them for a rainy day, after I finish my current stash of to-watch vids.

2 hours ago, SoapDope said:

The 1982 episodes conjured up some long ago memories of watching the show back then. I didn't get to see it everyday with school etc...so I missed a lot of little details at the time. Lilibet Stern, Jamie Lyn Bauer, Meg Bennett and Victoria Mallory were actresses I never forgot from those days. 

 

Ahhh, the good old days. Y&R had so many charismatic, memorable stars during its first decade, like Trish Stewart (Chris Brooks), William Gray Espy (Snapper Foster), Janice Lynde (Leslie Brooks), Tom Hallick (Brad Elliot), Jaime Lyn Bauer (Lorie Brooks), and so many others. It was hard watching them all drift away.

 

Edited October 17, 20178 yr by vetsoapfan

I think it was perfect casting with all the actors playing the Abbotts. I think Jerry Douglas looked like he could really be the father of Terry Lester more than Brett Halsey. 

Finally watched episode 4. I am entranced by Lilibet Stern’s Patty! Combination of great acting and writing. What a loss her departure was. Her Patty has so many layers. It was fascinating to watch Carl slowly dismantle Patty’s Stepford demeanor, and present some excellent arguments against Patty’s plan. Carl smartly did not criticize Jack, no matter how much he wanted to. He accurately pointed out that it’s not fair to Jack, or anyone, for Patty to get pregnant in this manner.

 

But she is completely lost in her fantasy, and can not process his advice. Is Patty’s mindset within the realm of normal behavior, or is she demonstrating the beginnings of mental illness? She grew up in a stable household with loving parents. Reading the ’81 synopses, it appears that Patty went off the rails when she learned that Paul was not taking responsibility for baby Heather. She couldn’t believe that her big brother, who she admired so much, could act this way, and this threw her belief system awry. Soon after, she snuck out to a country bar and met Jack. I guess she transferred all her hopes and dreams of a stable life, from her own family to Jack.

 

On a superficial note – is that a mullet hairstyle she is rocking?  Not the most flattering, nor the dress. But LS’ beauty shines through ☺

2 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

Finally watched episode 4. I am entranced by Lilibet Stern’s Patty! Combination of great acting and writing. What a loss her departure was. Her Patty has so many layers. It was fascinating to watch Carl slowly dismantle Patty’s Stepford demeanor, and present some excellent arguments against Patty’s plan. Carl smartly did not criticize Jack, no matter how much he wanted to. He accurately pointed out that it’s not fair to Jack, or anyone, for Patty to get pregnant in this manner.

 

But she is completely lost in her fantasy, and can not process his advice. Is Patty’s mindset within the realm of normal behavior, or is she demonstrating the beginnings of mental illness? She grew up in a stable household with loving parents. Reading the ’81 synopses, it appears that Patty went off the rails when she learned that Paul was not taking responsibility for baby Heather. She couldn’t believe that her big brother, who she admired so much, could act this way, and this threw her belief system awry. Soon after, she snuck out to a country bar and met Jack. I guess she transferred all her hopes and dreams of a stable life, from her own family to Jack.

 

On a superficial note – is that a mullet hairstyle she is rocking?  Not the most flattering, nor the dress. But LS’ beauty shines through ☺

It was a big loss to the show when LS left the role of Patty. Bill Bell loved writing for her and was upset when she left. Andrea Evans version was pretty much a bust.

 

I'm trying to remember if this sets up the storyline where Patty does get pregnant and when she comes to see Jack at his office, she see's him banging Diane. Stunned she trips over a potted plant on her way out without them seeing her. Carl who is working at Jabot as a security guard because of a temporary suspension from the force finds her and asks if she is OK. She later miscarries. 

Sadly, I think Stacy H could have been a good Patty.. but the show decided to make the character into a redeemable caricature instead of a fully 3D character struggling to maintain balance.  Her first few months as Mary Jane/Patty before the character went caricature.. she was conflicted about going along with Victor's plan before devolving fully into mental illness.  There was one scene where she was angry about not being able to comfort her brother Paul after Nikki broke off their engagement and how she blamed Victor.

 

I do agree that LS quitting affected the long term potential of Patty especially since she quit a short time before the Patty shooting Jack story took place.  I didn't think Andrea Evans was horrible as Patty and maybe if she'd played Patty from the start,  it would have been different... but there is one youtube out there where she was playing Patty doing the divorce talk with Jack and she did a good job, I thought.

I've heard a lot of people, especially OLTL fans say Andreas Patty was like she was still playing Tina.

Lilibet just has more complexity in her portrayal. She seems like a young girl trying to be a woman and being brought back to earth by her father. She is trying to be strong and in control, but begins to realise she isn't. I always felt Andrea was too sure of herself and a little more brittle and vampish, her Patty was quite straight forward, Lilibet seemed more nuanced. The writing was fantastic for her, I can see why Bell wanted LS to stick around, and even come back and I have to say I want to see more of her run. It is amazing between the April/May 82 episode that was floating around earlier (it was labelled Oct 82) when John is telling Patty Jack won't marry her and this later 82 episode, you can see the change in Patty, but also still see the same young woman (I think she is supposed to be 17/18) Bell and co. were doing a great job with the character, shame Lilibet left.

On 17/10/2017 at 12:07 PM, YRfan23 said:

I always thought Mamie was on since 1980 with Jack and the first John....though I guess her role extended as The Abbotts became more prominent.......

So I guess Jack basically  lived in the house all by himself (With Mamie) for almost a whole year before Jerry Douglas came on as John in 1982, haha
 

I always heard November 1982, around Thanksgiving. I don't think she was on prior to 1982 though. Jack and John seem mostly to have been shown at Jabot through 80-81. Pretty sure the Abbott home was not even built until 1982. 

 

However, there was a scene where John caught Jack and Jill in bed together in 1981, which is partly why he left town the first time. The scene sounds like it took place in the Abbott home, however it may have also just been a corridor and room set.

On 17/10/2017 at 11:36 AM, Soaplovers said:

Years ago, there were episodes on youtube from Deborah's last days as Jill and Brenda's first day as Jill back

I wish I could see those. I do remember in the early days of yt there were heaps of 1982/1983 episodes. I remember clearly watching the Nikki/Kevin/Carolyn story more and Nikki whining to Kay all the time, lol. 

Edited October 18, 20178 yr by will81

In the "80s compilation #2 vid that yrfan23 posted in the Lost Era playlist, there is a quick clip at 0:06 of LS' Patty fingering a letter opener, looking murderous... I want to see that entire scene so bad!

oh yeah....I forgot about that...  

 

Here's a video of Erica Hope on Match Game PM during her stint on Y&R in 1978. Wish there were scenes and/or episodes featuring her so we could compare her and MTS's portrayals as Nikki.

 

 

I could not imagine Erica  playing the part when Nikki hooked up with Victor. Bill Bell canned her within about 6 months and Melody was hired. 

3 hours ago, SoapDope said:

I could not imagine Erica  playing the part when Nikki hooked up with Victor. Bill Bell canned her within about 6 months and Melody was hired. 

 

It may be been John Conboy who later said that Erica Hope could not walk and chew gum at the same time. She was not a good actress, but to be honest, When Melody Thomas took over, I thought she was pretty dreadful too.

Edited October 20, 20178 yr by vetsoapfan

Has everyone seen this? https://classicsodyr.tumblr.com It has almost every issue from 1975 to 1987 of Soap Opera Digest synopsis. 

 

I am pretty sure there is a tumblr page for each show. If you want to go in chronological order, follow this link https://classicsodyr.tumblr.com/tagged/y&r/chrono

7 minutes ago, will81 said:

Has everyone seen this? https://classicsodyr.tumblr.com It has almost every issue from 1975 to 1987 of Soap Opera Digest synopsis. 

 

I am pretty sure there is a tumblr page for each show. If you want to go in chronological order, follow this link https://classicsodyr.tumblr.com/tagged/y&r/chrono

Yes, I follow it obsessively. My only complaint is that it only gets updated once or twice a week.

I actually thought it might be abandoned, glad it is still being updated. I had almost all SOD's from 1976 - 1996, but I had a rat problem and they pretty much destroyed my collection.