Vincent on Passions though was so bizarre it defies color. It crosses all boundaries to just be Vincent.

+1.

Vincent on Passions though was so bizarre it defies color. It crosses all boundaries to just be Vincent. You either liked the craziness of it or you didn't. I loved when he and Eric Martsolf danced to Fred Astaire.

that was a disgusting mess of a story and his reign of terror was one of the most revolting ever

Vincent on Passions though was so bizarre it defies color. It crosses all boundaries to just be Vincent. You either liked the craziness of it or you didn't. I loved when he and Eric Martsolf danced to Fred Astaire.

Vincent and his story were one of my all-time favourite things about Passions. I love that JER was so daring and actually went there. Kudos to him and to Vincent's portrayers (including Daphnee Duplaix) for pulling it off!

Edited May 1, 201015 yr by catsmeouch

Y&R's worst (and it continues to bother me) was Neil's spiraling into the gutter as an alcoholic. It was disgusting to watch. Here was a corporate guy and they turned him into a bum. Awful.

It was so campy, which surely wasn't intentional.

that was a disgusting mess of a story and his reign of terror was one of the most revolting ever

I wouldn't call it disgusting. I think this story was just an example of throwing everything including the kitchen sink into one story and the wind up was every shocking development resonated less and less. Ok, you have a guy who can change genders. Ok, he is sleeping with the secretly on the down lo longrunning character. Ok, he is a mystery villain behind everything. Now he is pregnant? And pregnant by who??? It just becomes too much. I liked a lot of the craziness of Passions: the mermaid, the magical chalice to control the universe that Alistair wanted (with a special cameo by the Pope), but by the time they got to Vincent it seemed like there was this desperate need to top themselves on a daily basis, so everything lost some impact.

I wouldn't call it disgusting. I think this story was just an example of throwing everything including the kitchen sink into one story and the wind up was every shocking development resonated less and less. Ok, you have a guy who can change genders. Ok, he is sleeping with the secretly on the down lo longrunning character. Ok, he is a mystery villain behind everything. Now he is pregnant? And pregnant by who??? It just becomes too much. I liked a lot of the craziness of Passions: the mermaid, the magical chalice to control the universe that Alistair wanted (with a special cameo by the Pope), but by the time they got to Vincent it seemed like there was this desperate need to top themselves on a daily basis, so everything lost some impact.

the guy raped his sister and screwed his father repeatedly. Thats disgusting

This thread is silly. Am I the only one that want good stories for characters played by good actors? Am I the only one that doesn't care if those characters are black, white, brown or yellow?

Totally agree... if it was only that easy. When there are more black brown and yellow then it'll be something to not care about.

Neil's alcoholism story didn't bother me (that's not to say I actually like it, I'm not sure if I do). It helped that KSJ gave some good performances and Shaughnessy produced the hell out of it (I recall some fantastic new sets and wonderful, I mean truly wonderful lighting during that time). And they did those great, extra long scenes that ended in an emotional cliffhanger.... I wouldn't really say it was campy at all. Not terrifically written but not bad either.

Edited May 1, 201015 yr by YRBB

All that with Neil and his hobo beard and the big yelling, it just didn't work for me as a serious story, at least not until Dru got involved. I know they were trying to show how far down he'd slid but I think a storyline where he more quietly slid downhill would have been more effective. It all seemed to be rushed.

When there are more black brown and yellow then it'll be something to not care about.

+1.

All that with Neil and his hobo beard and the big yelling, it just didn't work for me as a serious story, at least not until Dru got involved. I know they were trying to show how far down he'd slid but I think a storyline where he more quietly slid downhill would have been more effective. It all seemed to be rushed.

It was cliche but Kristoff did good work & as usual Jack Smith ruined it.

Edited May 2, 201015 yr by DeeeDee

Vincent on Passions though was so bizarre it defies color. It crosses all boundaries to just be Vincent. You either liked the craziness of it or you didn't. I loved when he and Eric Martsolf danced to Fred Astaire.

+1

This thread is silly. Am I the only one that want good stories for characters played by good actors? Am I the only one that doesn't care if those characters are black, white, brown or yellow?

This thread wouldn't be necessary if daytime weren't so segregated. As a whole the genre has regressed tremendously over the last 20 years. Almost every character is homogenized. Executives are giving into the blatant racism and homophobia in select viewers.

What's the point of being a multi-generational and multi-cultural viewing audience when the shows that we're watching only show 20-50 year old straight white people exchanging sex partners?

I don't know who this woman is, or what this reply is saying.

Wanda Sykes, Vincent lookalike.