18 minutes ago, Cat said:

I thought you liked Ramona, Cheap!

So now they're saying the All-Stars cast is cursed! Two (allegedly) down...

 

Speaking of All-Stars, much as I enjoy most in this cast, the true All-Stars cast should have been: 

Nene. Kenya. Jill Zarin. Bethenny. Teresa. Caroline Manzo. LVP. Brandi.

Ramona looks like the mom trying to be the "cool mom" from Mean Girls.

NY

 

I am just thinking wait and see on that Ramona. I honestly do not feel she's been that bad. YET. She has been trying at least. Oddly. 

 

Good vets anchor their shows well. And she's a good anchor. 

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

From quite a few people.  As we discussed at the end of the lasts reunion...It is not worship, but we know how La Dame is and love her for it. There is a difference between being a passionate fan and a stan. If liking someone is too much of a trigger, best to buckle up.  

Trust. As I said back then, I'll say it again: We get Karen Huger's schtick. We are along for the ride with her. We know it's not delusion; it's just an illusion. A fun ride for the cameras. 

4 hours ago, Cat said:

So let's see what Gizelle said about Karen's dirt:

1. Ray's ding-dong is broken.

NEW. Unconfirmed (and Ray is not going to pull out a doctor's report on this). Therefore, verdict: hard to verify. May Bravo never try.

2. There's some cheatin' goin on.

REPEAT. In S3 Gizelle said Ray had heart-eyes for Giz's business partner Erika Lyles (if the ding-dong is broken tho... 💀). That same season, Ashley said that Karen was having an affair with Blue Eyes, who may or may not have been Ray's chauffeur?

Verdict: we will see if Gizelle continues to ride this horse, but a good ole cheatin' rumor worked before (Michael Darby, Karen, Monique, Jamal). This always has potential to be a stinger.

3. The Hugers are Broke.

REPEAT from S3 and S4. We all saw the empty house in Great Falls rented for filming. I do think the Hs squared up with the IRS (as anyone with a braincell would), and now Karen is jumping on every business opportunity to (as they say) Maximise Revenue Streams.

Verdict: Potomac's portrayal of middle-class existence is financially precarious. Robyn has had tough times, Wendy has student debt, Candiace has Ms. Dorothy, Ashley is reliant on Michael. This may not be the big scandal Gizelle thinks it is, unless Karen maintains a tangled web of lies around it. 

Conclusion: If Gizelle is serious about exposing Karen's truth and nothing but -- this may not be enough. Also, two can play that game, and Gizelle is deluding herself if she thinks Karen will quake with fear and take this lying down. Karen has exceptionally quick comebacks, and she's got a lot in the vault on Gizelle, too -- starting with Jamal and whether that relationship is even real. So... 💀 evenly matched.

 

Excellent rundown. +1 

 

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

NY

I am just thinking wait and see on that Ramona. I honestly do not feel she's been that bad. YET. She has been trying at least. Oddly. 

Good vets anchor their shows well. And she's a good anchor. 

 

Agreed. Love her or hate her, she's what makes RHONY what it is, and it's been chugging along for 13 solid years. With things so uncertain regarding this current cast, I would sooner bet the network put this gossip out there on purpose to gauge viewer reaction.  Leah is tanking fast and hard while Eboni hasn't landed well overall. Honestly, the only safe bet these days is Sonja Tremont Morgan, bless her heart. 

BH tea for those who watch:

 

1 hour ago, Faulkner said:

BH tea for those who watch:

 

And that syncs up with what Kathy said about there being 20 episodes this season.

 

And the preview for this week includes Garcelle setting the ball rolling on Erika it appears. 

3 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Good to see you like La Dame. That was not clear when we talked about it last.  

I don't know how unclear I could have been considering how many times I repeat it. 
But that's exactly what I was talking about with GDW; seems there is a bit of a blind spot among fans regarding Karen.
Anyhow don't assume that because someone is not a stan, that it means they are a hater. I like these ladies and this is probably the only franchise where I like them all.

2 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

Trust. As I said back then, I'll say it again: We get Karen Huger's schtick. We are along for the ride with her. We know it's not delusion; it's just an illusion. A fun ride for the cameras. 

 

THIS.

3 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

I don't know how unclear I could have been considering how many times I repeat it. 
But that's exactly what I was talking about with GDW; seems there is a bit of a blind spot among fans regarding Karen.
Anyhow don't assume that because someone is not a stan, that it means they are a hater. I like these ladies and this is probably the only franchise where I like them all.

It wasn't clear.  That would be why I said it.

 

And don't assume that someone is calling you a hater. 

 

I like that they all bring something.  But as you catch up above, it bears repeating...no blind spot here. La Dame is seen clearly. Simply don't get triggered by it. 

 

Again, I did mention it before...  

OC

 

WOW.

 

Edited July 13, 20214 yr by Taoboi

I don’t think anyone here worships Karen. We all know her flaws. There’s nothing wrong with us being a bigger fan of hers than the other women. It’s weird how bothered by that you get.

3 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

 

My irritation at the first comments after yesterday's episodes were generic and while I am glad some have her number, perusing this thread makes pretty clear not everyone does.
The imbalance between the bile directed at Gizelle and Candiace vs the others is pretty obvious so, yes, it feels like some things need to be said just to temper the conversation from time to time.
If it is not relevant to you, great! You can add your two cents which are generally a lot more detailed and thoughtful than mine and ignore my pithy attempt to defend the entire cast against overeager fans.
Anyway back to the program itself...

 

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

THIS.

It wasn't clear.  That would be why I said it.

 

And don't assume that someone is calling you a hater. 

 

I like that they all bring something.  But as you catch up above, it bears repeating...no blind spot here. La Dame is seen clearly. Simply don't get triggered by it. 

 

Again, I did mention it before...  

OC

 

WOW.

 

I’m still confused why Sean has stayed with her this long honestly.

I can't speak for anyone else, but my unapologetic love for the Grande Dame (since season 1 when everybody else hated her) is due to her blend of wit, heart, and delusion that I find absolutely irresistible.

 

Karen Huger has made me rediscover that loving feeling that I lost when Sheree from RHOA left and the rivalry between her and Gizelle fulfill the promise that RHOA dropped the ball on by failing to find a worthy rival for Kenya, post-Phaedra.

Edited July 13, 20214 yr by VirginiaHamilton

So Bershawn was brought on to get things moving on this show.

She clearly has watched the show as A. She was expecting the drunk ladies from last season and now half the cast doesn’t drink. B. She knows of Sonja’s previous drunken clown behavior because until tonight Sonja has been sober around her.

Try as they might, and they tried this episode to give us fun and drama (and even “touching moments” with the women rallying around a grieving Eboni and defending Sonja), but this RHONY cast has zero chemistry.

Bershan definitely came to get it poppin, but it felt as forced as Leah’s bullsh!t (and it’s rich that Leah had so much to say about Bershan’s behavior—two peas in a pod). 

For me, NY is the most rewatchable franchise, but I’ve begun skipping reruns this season.

Edited July 14, 20214 yr by Faulkner

Bershan was hilarious tonight! She was giving me Dorinda teas tonight. That was just a hot mess in every way and I loved it! She’s right! They have been boring. She wanted to have fun and while she didn’t accomplish that, she definitely brought things to life. 
 

Next week looks insane! Sonja, Ramona and Bershan are my MVPs this season. 

Bershan earned her check! Why doesn’t she have an apple?