Well the ratings say otherwise, buddy. And if the show has taken a downfall, it's a collective effort because they are all vile at times. Some [Phaedra/Nene/Porsha] more than others....

Oh I'm not talking ratings wise, I'm talking quality wise lol. She's very good for ratings, even I can admit that.

Oh I'm not talking ratings wise, I'm talking quality wise lol. She's very good for ratings, even I can admit that.

I can somewhat agree with this statement, but I blame Bravo if anything. Kenya is only doing her job and Bravo is gleefully encouraging her actions. I'd act like a fool too for the amount of money she and the other ladies make.

I can somewhat agree with this statement, but I blame Bravo if anything. Kenya is only doing her job and Bravo is gleefully encouraging her actions. I'd act like a fool too for the amount of money she and the other ladies make.

You're not wrong!

I don't like Kenya, far from it but I give her a point if she earned it.

idk about ratings, they'd be big even if she wasn't a part of the show because we like seeing people on the screen that reflect us and ATL is the only franchise that does just that with an all black cast (or before with a majority black cast whereas most times it was the exact opposite).

But I have a lot of friends of color that just love ATL more than the others because of the drama.

I do still wish they would get Vicky Rowell's messy ass. I wonder how her and Nene would get along.

I do still wish they would get Vicky Rowell's messy ass. I wonder how her and Nene would get along.

Well they are friends. They've done book tours together. I think they'd be cool in the beginning but Nene would turn on her. Nene would be threatened by Vicky as she's a real [working] actress. She's rubbed shoulders with Hollywood heavyweights. The girls would also pour the salt in Nene's wounds about this at every chance.

I do still wish they would get Vicky Rowell's messy ass. I wonder how her and Nene would get along.

Nene would hate on her bc she doesn't like women who are more successful than she is.

I don't like Kenya, far from it but I give her a point if she earned it.

idk about ratings, they'd be big even if she wasn't a part of the show because we like seeing people on the screen that reflect us and ATL is the only franchise that does just that with an all black cast (or before with a majority black cast whereas most times it was the exact opposite).

But I have a lot of friends of color that just love ATL more than the others because of the drama.

IMO, ratings would've dropped if they didn't shake the cast up after season 4. It was too toxic. I do think that Kenya and even Porsha's basic ass breathed new life into RHOA. While the quality isn't like the classic seasons, the show is still good. Quality of the show also shows how times have changed in society too. You could see the quality show change before season 5. Really the change happened in season 4. The women became more consumed with material good and star power than their bonds with one another. But that's reality TV as a whole now.

Friendships mean nothing and money/stardom is everything.

I wish Kim had stayed so we never would've gotten Porsha. I think ratings would've been through the roof still had Kim survived that season. We would've had her feuding with Kim (lets not forget Kandi had very little story that year) and her reunion with Nene. Plus I think Kenya and Kim would've been friends.

Kim doesn't like Kenya, she's thrown boundless shade at her.

I wish Kim had stayed so we never would've gotten Porsha. I think ratings would've been through the roof still had Kim survived that season. We would've had her feuding with Kim (lets not forget Kandi had very little story that year) and her reunion with Nene. Plus I think Kenya and Kim would've been friends.

This.

And the few that Kenya and Kim filmed together with the other ladies, those two would've been cool. I just would've loved to have seen Kim's perspective on the battling workout tapes. But we all know Kim left the show b/c her hubby is low-key racist. Or he at least gives off those vibes.

Yeah I have always wondered about Kroy. I like him well enough but something about him bugs me.

Kim doesn't like Kenya, she's thrown boundless shade at her.

Kim doesn't like Kenya b/c she's trying to remain on Nene's good side. Let's be honest. When Kim is Team Nene, whomever Nene hates, she hates. Kim has no real reason to hate Kenya when Kenya says nothing but nice things about her. And TBH, Kim doesn't really like Nene. I've never believed their makeup. Too much went down between those two. They're cordial if anything. Kim hates all those women and you can tell it in her body language. She used them to get a spinoff.

Kim vs Kenya= would've been epic...

I don't know, Kim has had some pretty nice things to say about Nene lately and I think I read somewhere that they've been hanging out. And of course Brielle did just nominate Nene for the ALS challenge.