Jean was writing for OLTL before McTavish came over right? The general feeling at the time was the show got worse, better, stayed the same? I wasn't really watching much in 1999.

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by Adam

This is BEYOND shocking. It's disturbing. According to Johnson's bio, Bill Bell gave him his first job in soaps. His talent must've been evident for Mr. Bell to take him on and personally train him (he started out as a Story Consultant!) After five years at Y&R, Johnson left to work with Agnes Nixon for ten years at AMC. He's been writing for daytime for a total of 22 years. According to Toups, his reputation is stellar, he's well-liked and well-respected by his peers.

His work was so stellar than he started as a consultant and not, say, a writers' assistant.

So what possible reason would Ron Carlivati have for booting him out the door? Ron got rid of Fran Myers, Michelle Poteet Lizanti, Janet Iacobuzio, Carolyn Culliton (among others), now Frederick Johnson. Are we starting to see a pattern here? Do exceptionally talented people threaten Ron to the point where he has to get rid of them? And why is ABC allowing this? This is very disheartening news, another indication that the inmates are running the asylum.

The question about OLTL is....who from ATWT writing team will end up working with Carlivati? The fact that ABC hired K/S to be AMC headwriters leads me to believe that Passanante is on her way back to OLTL...and there is a vacancy!

Passanante to OLTL? OMG no! I saw some pictures of Ron & Jean at the WGA awards where they looked all buddy buddy and I had nightmares. I hope Ron does not hire her.

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by wingwalker

Wasn't Passante's AMC pretty bad? I can't remember what year(s) she wrote for AMC.

Wasn't Passante's AMC pretty bad? I can't remember what year(s) she wrote for AMC.

She joined AMC as Co-HW with Nixon and Elizabeth Page in June 1999. I believe it around the end of 2000 she took over as sole HW and then Culiton wouldn't come in until the next fall.

It was BAD.... this is the lady that had Gillian killed in order to give Laura English a heart.

Ugh so she was responsible for the horrible character that was Laura?

Ugh so she was responsible for the horrible character that was Laura?

The de-SORAS'd version or Laura Kirk was by Nixon AND Passanante. They're both to blame.

The de-SORAS'd version or Laura Kirk was by Nixon AND Passanante. They're both to blame.

how DARE you try to place any blame for anything not wonderful and perfect on Nixon.

Nixon, Bell, Marland. They all had faults too and bad stories and bad characters and whatnot. It always amuses me when people act as if they are perfection. better than what we have? Sure. Great HW's who did wonderful things and were brilliant? Without a doubt. Perfect? No.

how DARE you try to place any blame for anything not wonderful and perfect on Nixon.

Nixon, Bell, Marland. They all had faults too and bad stories and bad characters and whatnot. It always amuses me when people act as if they are perfection. better than what we have? Sure. Great HW's who did wonderful things and were brilliant? Without a doubt. Perfect? No.

That's the whole reason why it happens though. When you had good writers who wrote consistent material for years, you can overlook some of their flaws, even as you admit their mistakes. When you have disastrous writing regimes that continually produce crap and have done it on several shows, those people are never going to be well-liked.

The TPTB and certain people on Twitter just use the current negativity of fans on message boards to cover their asses and their lack of creativity and talent. If they wrote a more consistent show and didn't intentionally try to write against the grain of many of these shows, maybe people would be more accepting. It's pretty lame to blame fans for their negativity when they themselves know they're writing crap and living in denial about it. Especially when many of these same people come and read the same message boards they claim are "too negative" and even steal ideas off them.

Edited March 3, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

how DARE you try to place any blame for anything not wonderful and perfect on Nixon.

Re-read JP's post, bellcurve.

Re-read JP's post, bellcurve.

I took your advice and still saw an eyeroll-worthy attempt at sarcasm. Sorry.

how DARE you try to place any blame for anything not wonderful and perfect on Nixon.

Nixon, Bell, Marland. They all had faults too and bad stories and bad characters and whatnot. It always amuses me when people act as if they are perfection. better than what we have? Sure. Great HW's who did wonderful things and were brilliant? Without a doubt. Perfect? No.

I'm sorry. You're right. Every. Single. Decision that was made story-wise by Agnes was perfection. Creative and original. 1999's Greenlee/Becca/Scott triangle was TOTALLY not a complete rip off of 1970's Erica/Tara/Phil triangle.

The story of Marian Colby trying to social climb in her damn 60's? Genius!

Forgive me. Everything Agnes Nixon even shits is pure gold! The same as Lorraine Broderick's work. Yeah, we've been dealing with the same two stories for the last four weeks -- but it's brilliant work! She single handedly wrote every last word!

Actually, I'm referring to this part of his post (emphasis added):

"Nixon, Bell, Marland. They all had faults too and bad stories and bad characters and whatnot. It always amuses me when people act as if they are perfection. better than what we have? Sure. Great HW's who did wonderful things and were brilliant? Without a doubt. Perfect? No."

Wow - Lisa COnnor gone from Y&R, this is good news.

Interesting that Liz Snyder is out at B&B after 7 years - I wonder why?