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OLTL: Discussion for the week November 30

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Melissa Archer better get an Emmy nod.

She certainly deserves it with her controlled performances of grief over Jared's death. Even FF was tolerable today in her scenes with Rex. Overall, I loved today. The brief scene with Clint and Mitch today was pure GOLD for me. I've been waiting for that for years now and Roscoe Born and Jerry Ver Dorn did not disappoint me. I hope we see more of the 2 of them because I think there is a great dynamic between these 2 characters. And how touching was the poem reading at Jared's funeral. MA had me in tears threw those scenes as she did when she lied down next to Jared's casket in the ground. One question, where did she get that framed picture of the ranch?

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David doesn't have to be quite that much of a caricature, he was more balanced when he was on the show the first few years, and I'd say he was a more effective character than the punching bag he's been in recent years.

Rex, I think that's just JPL's bad acting and no direction.

Apparently they had to redo the scene once because the first take was too much. Or that's the rumor. I think we'll get something good, not sure how much. I'm keeping my expectations low because you don't get a lot of this type of thing on any TV show, not even cable shows.

Is anyone really expecting anything? I was talking about my imagination running wild, not any expectations of ABC. Though a well placed look or line will steer me.

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I liked early David, but it's obvious that Tuc would much rather play this current version of the character, he seems to be having a ball. I've said this before, but there was sort of an awkward period for Tuc/David (at least in my eyes) where I felt like he was trying to find the character for himself, and this was about a year or two in. I think he and JPL feel hindered by a lot of drama, they are freer in comedy and that's cool, but there are plenty of moments (especially for Rex since David is so far gone) where the director could have told him to bring it back.

With David is it often descends into "David is a loser, let's have people act superior to him," and it makes me resent a lot of characters I otherwise never had a problem with. Renee, Nigel, Clint, Natalie, among others. Now this has started again with Kevin. I think if he stays around longer then they should consider playing up something other than the wacky pathetic stuff. The best scene he had all year was the one when he briefly thought he was Asa's son and he tore into the family for the horrible way they'd treated him.

Melissa Archer is doing wonderful work. It reminds me of Jensen Buchanan's work on AW when Ryan died. That was, by far, the best acting of her career.

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Don't turn into Luke Fish!

Don't do it!

Act like a queen? You mean??laugh.gif

Fish is butch....hehe..just they way I like em.....lol

Luke is way too bitchy....clingy.....and a queen for my taste.

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Is anyone really expecting anything? I was talking about my imagination running wild, not any expectations of ABC. Though a well placed look or line will steer me.

Honestly, I don't put it past FV and RC to actually try to get away with more in a Kyle/Oliver sex scene than they would in a straight couple sex scene. Not that I have an issue with that, of course. Daytime is so unsexy most of the time...I just want to see some real passion coming from the screen.

Act like a queen? You mean??laugh.gif

Fish is butch....hehe..just they way I like em.....lol

Luke is way too bitchy....clingy.....and a queen for my taste.

Nah, Ol isn't all that butch either. He's very sensitive, I think, and always looks like he's on the verge of tears. At least he doesn't always have that bitchface that Luke has, though.

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Yeah, it would be a little hard to believe that the David of today could have so convincingly pulled of the Irene's diary stuff. Today, it would be all madcap and blunder. He had more of an edge and could be seen as more of a threat back then, then they seemed to ditch the idea that he had brains and turned him into a dumb blonde stuck in an International Male model's body. I also liked it when he was laying the Bukes out, only thing I didn't like was Dorian's involvement. I don't like her with David, I have never bought any sort of romantic aspect to their relationship and I don't like it when the writers push that.

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Honestly, I don't put it past FV and RC to actually try to get away with more in a Kyle/Oliver sex scene than they would in a straight couple sex scene. Not that I have an issue with that, of course. Daytime is so unsexy most of the time...I just want to see some real passion coming from the screen.

Nah, Ol isn't all that butch either. He's very sensitive, I think, and always looks like he's on the verge of tears. At least he doesn't always have that bitchface that Luke has, though.

The Luke pout.

As for Kyle/Oliver, if anyone mentions Astroglide I'll be happier than ever.

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Nah, Ol isn't all that butch either. He's very sensitive, I think, and always looks like he's on the verge of tears. At least he doesn't always have that bitchface that Luke has, though.

He may be sensitive but he isn't Luke...lol. I'd take Fish or Kyle over Luke anyday.

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One question, where did she get that framed picture of the ranch?

She gave it to Jared for Christmas last year.

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I've been pretty hard on Melissa Archer over the years but I just rewatched some of yesterday's and today's shows and I have to admit she CAN do it. And she hasn't lost too much of the rawness that made her interesting in the first place.

As to Kyle and Oliver, in all seriousness, I think the most graphic we can expect is a mention of safe sex. Maybe an open-mouth kiss.

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