Members Juliajms Posted November 9, 2009 Members Share Posted November 9, 2009 I think part of it was having expectations that were too high. Some of us remember the time he was on the show as Y&R glory days. Add to that a major rewriting of history and you just kind of expect that the acting is going to be there to support such a drastic move, but it wasn't. Never in a million years did I think TPTB would hang a rusty TB out to dry like they did. Because really, when he first started the acting was incredibly weak and off. If he had been a new actor I wouldn't have had any expectations, which I think is why it was easy for me to give CF time to adjust. But TB is definitely improving too and I think they tried to explain some of his stiffness and non reaction away today. In any case, I do think any actor should be given a couple of months to settle into a role, which is why I'm quiet on Daisy for now and if any more vets from 20 years ago pop up, I'll be sure to have more realistic expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 9, 2009 Members Share Posted November 9, 2009 Miller acts like it's an inconvenience to make eye contact with co-stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted November 9, 2009 Members Share Posted November 9, 2009 And that's one of my pet peeves.... that what I hated about Dickson's final year onscreen. I want these actors to have eye contact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapydoc Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 I understand the writers actually DID write a scene with Phyllis going off on Victor. However, Eric would not play the scene. He REFUSED. Therefore, they took it out. Yep. Sure am glad he's coming back. I hope they reign that mess in during this round of EB's version of Victor. Peter Bergman recently gave an interview to a French magazine where he also mentioned EB's stubborness when it came to not playing scenes he thought would make reflect poorly on Victor. PB actually did mention he was sorry that EB would probably be going but at least the writers would be able to write scenes that told the stories they wanted without ONE actor holding the rest of the show hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 Why am I not surprised? I am so disappointed that EB caved in and is returning. His ego has hurt Y&R. I don't understand why his identifies with his character so closely. He is not Victor even if they both have over sized egos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 Soapydoc: three questions: 1. Do you have a link to the Bergman french interview? FrenchFan (if you're reading) do you have a link? 2. Do you have a source for this statement that there was a Stafford-Bergman scene, but he refused it? Was this the in-ranch scene before Phyl left town? 3. You are attributed with saying Vail was re-signed to a contract. Do you have a source or a current disposition on this? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'm trying to separate spumor from fact, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicmoment Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 If this is true that's digusting and as much as I thought it was a mistake if they had they should have let him go in that case. I'll be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapydoc Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 1. I don't have a link but it was in Telestar Magazine that went on sale October 19th. Per Mathys on Sony. 2. It was not Stafford Bergman but Stafford and EB. I can't reveal my source, sorry. But I feel confident enough to come on a message board and pass it on. 3. As I had mentioned to someone last week who PM'd me, I had been told that Val was under a one-year contract, newly engaged and pregnant, a couple of months ago. I have no idea where things stand now as this was from someone who knows someone who works for Bell Productions. I had heard a little more but would rather not go further since the rest of what I'd heard was very subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 This is terrific. I'm going to look for the Telestar thing...although I'm unlikely to find it! Can't wait to find the dirt :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 Die Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 Frantz, Marano, Erin & Zima all at the same time? [Katherine Chancellor] Dear God In Heaven [/Katherine Chancellor] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 Why are you branching out? You're going to make Cane jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 He still needs to die too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CSF Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 Ryder and Abby? What's up with that. As much as everyone on this board was predicting and with that hilarious skit Cat wrote, I can see MAB and her lame team stealing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 10, 2009 Members Share Posted November 10, 2009 Did Kevin just use Tom as an excuse for his being a serial rapist? Really Maria?! REALLY?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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