Y&R: Episodes Discussion, Week of Nov. 9th, 2009
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Oh yes defintely, Josh Griffith repeats and repeats the same storylines. -
Isnt’t this storyline similar to the Cameron Kirsten situation though? Sharon thought she killed him. He ended up being alive and Sharon was being tormented with thinking she was seeing his face everywhere and that’s how we got that iconic scene with her and Nikki in the sewers. I understand in Mariah’s case this is different circumstances but it does seem like a play on that whole thing. Maybe I’m wrong. I just wish if they were going to make any character follow in Sharon’s foot steps it would be Faith. Mariah wasn’t even raised by her, and her personality is different. I would expect her to take a different path. I understand I could be completely jumping ahead because the storyline hasn’t even played out yet but we’ll see. -
Thanks again @Paul Raven Monica was completely without redeeming qualities at this point. I always found the whole Monica = Carly narrative regressive, as I don't think shows comparing characters so heavily is ever a great idea, but she's actually worse than Carly was. Was it the Pollocks who had Leslie have a miscarriage? Giving her a child, especially by rape, was not a good idea, but a part of me wishes they'd committed to it just to see what story it might have had in later years. -
By Paul Raven · Posted
@janea4old Your detailed explanation and delving into the psychology and motivations is no doubt the opposite of what we will see onscreeen. As @ranger1rg stated we will get a few scenes and some sketchy explanations. Like the adoption of Aria, most of it will take place off screen. -
I'm suddenly fearful that DAYS is going to pull a Flowers-for-Algernon stunt and Bo's progress will be reversed. While @te. is stuck on Abe's tiny bedroom, I can't stop thinking of the size of Bo's huge hospital room. -
Okay, why are Paulina and Abe sleeping like that?! I'd take a screen grab if I wasn't lazy, but come on. -
By DaytimeFan · Posted
All caught up on this week's episodes. Deidre Hall has done the best work of her career with this series of episodes. That is her tribute to Drake. Every acting choice has been perfect. From her reaction the moment John flatlined, to her snapping at Abe and Paulina (what a smart, realistic writing choice), to her grief playing the text message over and over. Josh Taylor did the best work of his career in the scene with Kayla telling him John had died. Everything about his facial expression, voice, pronunciation, everything was so different from what he usually does. He was overcome with the emotion of it and any of his acting tics disappeared. Peter Reckell and Kristian Alfonso were great. One thing I noticed with the flashbacks of John/Marlena and Bo/Hope is that Bo and Hope are constantly smiling at each other. The chemistry those two have cannot be faked. It's clear the writing team decided to clean up Bo and Hope and give fans a happy ending for them, neatly wrapped up in a bow. The juxtaposition of Bo and Hope reclaiming their happiness thanks to John, while Marlena is dealt life's harshest blow from John's sacrifice, was another great writing choice. Marlena even saying that to Eric, that she is paying for Bo's recovery with John's life, was such smart writing. Susan Seaforth Hayes was used very effectively between the two storylines. I really enjoyed the scene of Kate talking to Philip, calmly stating that she will make Xander pay. Overall, the show should be lining these episodes up for the Emmys and Deidre should be carefully choosing her scenes for her own reel. She deserves a Best Actress Emmy for this work. The first time I have felt that way about her work. Peter Reckell should submit himself for Guest for the scenes where he found out Victor is dead because he was genuinely heartbreaking. Josh Taylor should throw his name down for Supporting Actor for his scenes. The show deserves a Writing and Best Show for what they've done with the episodes around John and Bo. It was heavy stuff and I feel for the actors. I am so impressed with what they did. -
By slick jones · Posted
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BRENT SPINER Also Credited as Brent Mintz 2/2/1949 - Present RYAN'S HOPE Doctor Examining Kim Harris 1981 ONE LIFE TO LIVE Ralph Hanley 1984 and TO TELL THE TRUTH Imposter 1972 THE DAIN CURSE Tom Fink 1978 FAMILY FEUD 1979 ROBERT KENNEDY AND HIS TIMES Allard Lowenstein 1985 NIGHT COURT Bob Wheeler 1985 -87 MAMA'S FAMILY Billy Bob Conroy (2 Episodes) 1986 - 87 STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION Lieutenant Commander Data 1987 - 94 + STAR TREK ENTERPRISE 2004 - 05 Also Dr. Arik Soong + STAR TREK PICARD 2020 - 23 Also Dr. Altan Inigo Soong (2020); Adam Soong (2022); Lore (2023) +STAR TREK: LOWER DECKS 2024 ST: TNG -- Also -- Dr. Ira Graves -- 1989; Lore -- 1988; 1990; 1993; Dr. Noonian Soong -- 1990; 1993; Frank Hollander, Eb Hollander, Henchman, Bandito, Annie Meyers -- 1992 READING RAINBOW 1988 GARGOYLES Puck 1995 - 96 THRESHOLD Dr. Nigel Fenway 2005 - 06 FRESH HELL Brent Spiner 2011 - 12 WAREHOUSE 13 Brother Adrian 2012 GENERATION REX Dr. Gabriel Rylander + (V) 2010 - 13 RAY DONOVAN Therapist 2014 STAR WARS: REBELS Gale Trayvis 2014 - 15 BLUNT TALK Phil 2015 - 16 OUTCAST Sidney 2016 - 17 MADE IN HOLLYWOOD (2 Episodes) 2016 FROM THE MOUTHS OF BABES 2016 PENNY DREADFUL: CITY OF ANGELS Ned Vanderhoff 2020 YOUNG JUSTICE The Joker (V) 2011; 2021 THE CENTER SEAT: 55 YEARS OF STAR TREK 2021 - 22 NIGHT COURT 2.0 Bobert "Bob" Wheeler 2024 - 25 @Wendy 's HUNTER CONNECTION HUNTER "The Contract" Willie Vaughn 12/13/1986 PILOTS/PROPOSALS SYLVAN IN PARADISE Clinton C. Waddy 1986 WHAT'S ALAN WATCHING? (OUTRAGEOUS) Brentwood Carter 1984 PodCasts ID10T WITH CHRIS HARDWICK 2012 GALAXYCON LIVE 2020 GATES MCFADDEN INVESTIGATES 2021 LABYRINTH WITH AMANDA KNOX 2021 INSIDE OF YOU WITH MICHAEL ROSENBAUM 2023 INGLORIOUS TREKSPERTS 2023 - 24 BATMAN: THE AUDIO ADVENTURES The Joker 2021 - 22 Television Specials E'S INSIDE STAR TREK SPECIAL 1993 COMIC RELIEF VI Lieutenant Commander Data 1994 HARRY ANDERSON: THE TRICKS OF HIS TRADE 1996 STAR TREK: 30 YEARS AND BEYOND 1996 WELCOME COMIC-CON 2013 movies MY SWEET CHARLIE Local 1970 (Made for T. V.) STARDUST MEMORIES Fan in Lobby 1980 RENT CONTROL Leonard Junger 1981 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FABULOUS STAINS Corinne Burns' Boss 1982 CRIME OF INNOCENCE Hinnerman 1985 (Made for T. V.) MANHUNT FOR CLAUDE DALLAS Jim Stewart 1986 (Made for T. V.) FAMILY SINS Ken McMahon 1987 (Made for T. V.) MISS FIRECRACKER Preacher Mann 1989 SHOCKER Talk Show Guest 1989 CRAZY FROM THE HEART 1991 (Made for T. V.) CORRINA, CORRINA Brent Witherspoon 1994 STAR TREK: GENERATIONS Data 1994 JOURNEY'S END: THE SAGA OF STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 1994 (Made for T. V.) STAR TREK: RETURN OF THE NEXT GENERATION 1994 KINGFISH: A STORY OF HUEY P. LONG 1995 (Made for T. V.) PIE IN THE SKY Upscale Guy 1995 PHENOMENON Dr. Bob 1996 INDEPENDENCE DAY Dr. Brakish Okun 1996 STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT Data 1996 TREKKIES 1997 OUT TO SEA Gil Godwyn 1997 STAR TREK: INSURRECTION Data 1998 SOUTH PARK: BIGGER, LONGER AND UNCUT Conan O'Brien (V) 1995 INTRODUCING DOROTHY DANDRIDGE Earl Mills 1999 (Made for T. V.) GEPPETTO Stromboli 2000 (Made for T. V.) DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR? Pierre 2000 HOLLYWOOD REMEMBERS WALTER MATTHAU 2001 (Made for T. V.) A GIRL THING Bob 2001 (Made for T. V.) ASK ME NO QUESTIONS 2001 (Made for T. V.) THE PONDER HEART Dorris Grabney 2001 (Made for T. V.) I AM SAM Shoe Salesman 2001 THE MASTER OF DISGUISE Devlin Bowman 2002 STAR TREK: NEMESIS Data; B-4 2002 IDENTITY CRISIS: THE MAKING OF A MASTER 2003 AN UNEXPECTED LOVE Brad 2003 (Made for T. V.) JACK Vernon 2004 (Made for T. V.) THE AVIATOR Robert Gross 2004 MATERIAL GIRLS Tommy Katzenbach 2006 CAST OF CHARACTERS: THE MAKING OF MATERIAL GIRLS 2006 SUPERHERO MOVIE Dr. Strom 2008 QUANTUM QUEST: A CASSINI SPACE ODYSSEY Coach Mackey (V) 2010 STARDATE REVISITED: THE ORIGINS OF STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 2012 REUNIFICATION: 25 YEARS AFTER STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 2012 RESISTANCE IS FUTILE: ASSIMILATING STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 2013 STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: REGENERATION -- ENGAGING THE BORG 2013 RELATIVITY: THE FAMILY SAGA OF STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 2013 REQUIEM: A REMEMBRANCE OF STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 2013 STAR TREK: FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE NEXT 2013 BEYOND THE FIVE YEAR MISSION: THE EVOLUTION OF STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 2014 STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION -- THE SKY'S THE LIMIT THE ECLIPSE OF STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 2014 STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION -- THE UNKNOWN POSSIBILITIES OF EXISTENCE: MAKING ALL GOOD THINGS... 2014 THE MIDNIGHT MAN Ezekiel 2016 INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Dr. Brakish Okun 2016 INDEPENDENCE DAY: A LEGACY SURGING FORWARD Self; Dr. Brakish Okun 2016 ANOTHER DAY: THE MAKING OF INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Self; Dr. Brakish Okun 2016 BRENTWOOD Brent 2018 NEVER SURRENDER: A GALAXY QUEST DOCUMENTARY Data 2019 STAR TREK: PICARD: THE IMAX LIVE SERIES FINALE EVENT 2023 Video Games STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION -- A FINAL UNITY Data 1995 CHRONOMASTER Milo 1995 STAR TREK: GENERATIONS Data 1997 STAR TREK: HIDDEN EVIL Data 1999 STAR TREK: AWAY TEAM Data 2001 STAR TREK: BRIDGE COMMANDER Data 2002 FAMILY GUY: THE QUEST FOR STUFF Data 2014 ELITE: DANGEROUS Vega 2014 HCS HOMEPACKS 2014 BROADWAY A HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN FILM 3/30/1978 - 4/16/1978 Hank SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE 5/2/1984 - 10/13/1985 Franz; Dennis THE THREE MUSKETEERS 11/11/1984 - 11/18/1984 Aramis BIG RIVER 4/25/1985 - 9/20/1987 Replacement -- The Duke 10/8/1985 - ??? 1776 8/19/1997 - 6/14/1998 John Adams **** DRAMA DESK AWARD NOMINEE -- OUTSTANDING ACTOR IN A MUSICAL LIFE (X)3 3/31/2003 - 6/29/2003 Hubert THEATER THE FAMILY PLAY 1 AND II 1975 Kil Westside Theatre Downstairs MARCO POLO 1976 Counselor 2 Marymount Manhattan Theatre LEAVE IT TO BEAVER IS DEAD 1979 Luke New York Shakespeare Festival EMIGRES 1979 AA Brooklyn Academy of Music THE SEAGULL (World Premiere) 1980 Konstantin Treplev Joseph Papp Public Theatre -- Newman Theater TABLE SETTINGS 1980 Older Son Playwrights Horizons -- Judy Theater NO END OF BLAME 1981 Mr. Mik; Art Student; 2nd Male Nurse; 2nd Hungarian Soldier; 3rd Airman Stage 73 MARVELOUS GRAY 1982 Electrician Judith Anderson Theatre THE CHERRY ORCHARD 1983 Long Wharf Theater New Haven, CTTHE PHILANTHROPIST 1983 John Stage 73 SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE 1983 Jed; Franz Playwrights Horizons -- Judy Theater LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS 1983 Replacement -- Seymour Krelborn EVERY GOOD BOY DESERVES FAVOR 1992; 1993 Ivanov MAN OF LA MANCHA 2009 Don Quixote/ Miguel de Cervantes Freud Playhouse at UCLA Los Angeles, CA BOOK -- FAN-FICTION: A MEM-NOIR, INSPIRED BY TRUE EVENTS October 2021 Family Ties Parents -- Sylvia Schwartz and Jack Spiner Step-father -- Sol Mintz Marriage -- Loree McBride ???? - Present 1 Child -- Jackson Spiner Before Brent Spiner was Famous There are many similarities between forensicators and Lt. Commander Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation. Both are highly intelligent, but rarely understood by the outside world. Both aim only to evolve, to be better than what they are. And both belong to the NFL. Data, who is actually Brent Spiner, was born February 2, 1949 in Houston, TX. He was the son of Sylvia, a corporate VP and Jack, a furniture store owner. When Jack suddenly died, Sylvia was left to raise infant Brent and his brother alone. She eventually remarried a man named Sol Mintz. Although Mintz adopted Brent, Brent changed his last name back to Spiner when he became a professional actor. Spiner attended Bellaire High School in Houston and was heavily involved in baseball and the drama club, in addition to being a member of the NFL. While on the speech team, he gained 143 points and even earned the title of Dramatic Interpretation Champion in at the 1967 National Tournament (the same year actress Shelley Long won Oratory). After his success in high school, Spiner moved on to the University of Houston and began performing in local theatre in Houston. Eventually he dropped out of college to move to New York City and try his acting luck there. While in New York, Spiner gained more stage acting experience, performing in several Broadway and Off-Broadway plays, including The Three Musketeers and Stephen Sondheim’s Sunday in the Park with George. In 1984, Spiner decided to try film acting and moved again, this time to LA, where he appeared in several pilots and made-for-TV movies. He then auditioned for the up-and-coming show Star Trek: The Next Generation. Spiner himself was never a fan of science fiction or of the original Star Trek, but figured the show would soon be cancelled and he desperately needed the money. Starting in 1987, Spiner played Data for 15 years, during the show’s 7 seasons and the four feature films that followed. Even when the show was cancelled in 1994, Spiner’s career as a performer barely paused. He is most remembered for his role in Independence Day as Dr. Okun, the somewhat awkward chief scientist of Area 51 who is attacked and killed by his alien subjects. He has also made appearances on Law & Order, Friends, Dude, Where’s My Car?, I Am Sam, and The Aviator. Spiner returned to the theatre and appeared in the Broadway revival 1776 as John Adams. Unlike most of his co-stars, Spiner is not very active in the Star Trek convention scene. He has made a few appearances, but overall his lack of interest in science fiction gets the best of him. However, he still regards Patrick Stewart and LeVar Burton as two of his best friends. One of the challenges forensicators face is finding the human element in their events; to not be robotic and detached, but simply themselves. It is this crucial element that separates the good from the great. As the character Data, Spiner sums up the NFL experience the best: “If being human is not simply a matter of being born flesh and blood – if it is instead a way of thinking, acting, and feeling, then I am hopeful that one day I will discover my own humanity. Until then…I will continue learning, changing, growing, and trying to become more than what I am.” https://www.ign.com/articles/2002/12/09/an-interview-with-brent-spiner https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-02-17-ca-1835-story.html https://www.discogs.com/artist/1224629-Brent-Spiner?srsltid=AfmBOorfw9Nl3EZ4fc-plhbgU3ng2bSQTruygkdJxZgsPquzQ6sBhCbj Leslie Charleson pg. 435 PILOTS/PROPOSALS ANOTHER APRIL April Weston Moss 1974 (Made for T. V.) Article including James Rebhorn, Catherine Cox and Peter Kluge -- all former daytime actors .https://www.wittenberg.edu/administration/universitycommunications/magazine/spring1999/curtaincalling -
For anyone who missed the end of Friday June 6 due to news interruption, the last five minutes of every episode is uploaded to the official GH facebook late in the evening, usually around 11:30pm Eastern. Here's the end of that episode: https://www.facebook.com/generalhospital/videos/3649028845342563
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Thanks so much for posting this. Since they had retconned Roger/Holly's relationship after his return as being "Roger was always in love with Holly" when it was actually the other way around, they kept up this narrative in this video. Understandable, but it still bugs me. Holly was never his "heart." That's baloney. He only married her to be in Christina's life and was screwing other women like Diane and Hillary the whole time. Peggy was truly the only woman that Roger ever loved, and even that wasn't a very healthy relationship. Holly only really fell out of love with Roger after she realized she loved Ed while they were divorcing. I'm glad he reminded people that the rape scenes were taped in a day. It's amazing what they accomplished with very little rehearsal. That scene still has great impact after all these years. And OMG, watching the scenes of Roger's return in comparison...the quality in the writing really nosedived. The stupid mask. (I love the way they joke about the mask at the end). Alan's insanely over-the-top reaction to his return when Roger had no hold against him anymore. Yikes, one of the worst things Long did while she was still writing the show, though I will cut her a break since she absolutely had a tough task bringing back a guy who fell off a cliff.
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