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Y&R: Episode Discussion for the week October 19

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I love the growing dynamic of Ashley-Adam-Sharon. The emotional beats between Sharon and Ashley prove to me that this baby switch can be what I want it to be...something where we feel for EVERYONE in that story. Sharon mentioned getting a "new job".

Unfortunately, for me, I feel nothing for any of these characters and they've given me no reason to. I still think the overall baby switch is lame, especially the way it was initially executed, and Ashley and Sharon had little no no interaction leading up to it, as did Sharon and Adam, so I do not buy any of these "bonds." It appears inorganic and forced.

I do agree, Sharon Case did look pretty today though.

Chance/Chloe/Billy/Mac. Meh. I'm not feeling any of it. I'm not feeling Chloe and Billy, I'm certainly not feeling Mac and Billy, and Chance is just too new and underdeveloped. Here's hoping forthcoming events infuse this with some depth, but I suspect it's more shock and awe.

Especially with Chance

being stabbed

soon. :rolleyes:

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most of the characters featured..Nikki, Jill, Victor..etc will be out soon!!..if not sooner!!

What's the point in investing/watching this show when

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Those poor people at Restless Style. Their new boss is a leering, insecure brat who was already boozing it up at the end of the show. Wasn't he an alcoholic at one time? I can't imagine what it must be like to work at that magazine. No wonder they all looked terrified and confused while Phyllis was speaking. What do you get paid at Restless Stlye anyway? If the outfits today were any indication, your salary is the costumes from a Minnie Mouse and Ugly Betty lookalike contest.

Are they already having Jack move in on this new therapist? Really? SH is doing a good job, and I liked seeing her put Victor on blast (and Braeden seemed to enjoy the challenge), but them pushing Jack towards her so fast, even though the woman who has her face raped him and killed his niece, makes me believe she's going to become a psycho. And she said she could speak for herself, and a woman standing up for herself = evil with this team.

John Driscoll looked cute today. Mackenzie, why did she have that rat tail hanging off the back of her head, and why is she dressed like Mary Ryan Finelli during the bad recast years? I wouldn't have minded a Chance/Mac pairing.

Sharon Case is doing a good job, and her hair looks better, but I'm still having a hard time with this endless stuff about dead baby woe. Eileen is also doing well but Ashley seems very spacey. I don't really get why either of them have any real trust for Adam. The guy creeps me out, especially the looks he gives people.

Let Chance/Mac be together PLEASE! They are made for each other, and NOT in a good way!

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Did anyone else laugh when Phyllis started crying when she announced to the Restless Sh!t staff how hard it was for her to leave? LOL

Yeah, like it was that huge a part of her life...

Billy is pathetic, truly pathetic. I find nothing compelling about this character anymore. I went from liking him when he returned to hating him. The character writing on this show is so inconsistent and bad...

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most of the characters featured..Nikki, Jill, Victor..etc will be out soon!!..if not sooner!!

What's the point in investing/watching this show when

Is there any confirmation on

Jill

? I haven't seen her mentioned anywhere but SON. Are people just "reading the writing on the wall"?

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Unfortunately, for me, I feel nothing for any of these characters and they've given me no reason to. I still think the overall baby switch is lame, especially the way it was initially executed, and Ashley and Sharon had little no no interaction leading up to it, as did Sharon and Adam, so I do not buy any of these "bonds." It appears inorganic and forced.

I do agree, Sharon Case did look pretty today though.

Especially with Chance

being stabbed

soon. :rolleyes:

This would be the show's CHANCE to get rid of him!

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Is there any confirmation on

Jill

? I haven't seen her mentioned anywhere but SON. Are people just "reading the writing on the wall"?

Mark, she ain't goin nowhere. People are just running around in chicken suits saying "The sky is falling"

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Mark, she ain't goin nowhere. People are just running around in chicken suits saying "The sky is falling"

Like how people thought Braeden wasn't going anywhere? And when MTS re-signed that she would be around longer? A few months later, and we're told that they still want her out or bumped to reucrring.

You never know what to believe anymore with this show.

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Mark, she ain't goin nowhere. People are just running around in chicken suits saying "The sky is falling"

I(people) am not wearing blinders where Y&R is concerned. The show might be masking its behind the scenes drama by showing vets but that doesnt mean the sky isnt falling.

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Like how people thought Braeden wasn't going anywhere? And when MTS re-signed that she would be around longer? A few months later, and we're told that they still want her out or bumped to reucrring.

You never know what to believe anymore with this show.

Please. Braeden makes the most money, and is the biggest pain in the ass. I'm surprised they didn't dump him 5 years ago. Now, back to the episodes. I LOVED Paul today telling Victor to "Keep your money AND your guilt". Such satisfaction. And I agree with Mark about Dr. Emily. Haiduk is REALLY selling this. It looked bad on paper, but she's making it work. Muhney is STILL falling WAY WAY short. He's just not RIGHT for this part. The thought of him in a feud with Snoreboria and Penis head is intriguing, but I'm doubting Muhney can pull this off with any degree of credibility.

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Please. Braeden makes the most money, and is the biggest pain in the ass. I'm surprised they didn't dump him 5 years ago.

Sure...

His salary and his ego never stopped them from dumping him before. And from what we're told, it wasn't even about the money...

Like it or not, many thought Braeden would be here for a long time, as to many he's the public face of the show. You may disagree, but to many in the mainstream media and to many fans, he is. I'm not his biggest fan either, but even I can acknowledge that.

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Sure...

His salary and his ego never stopped them from dumping him before. And from what we're told, it wasn't even about the money...

Like it or not, many thought Braeden would be here for a long time, as to many he's the public face of the show. You may disagree, but to many in the mainstream media and to many fans, he is. I'm not his biggest fan either, but even I can acknowledge that.

I don't think it's because fans really LIKE Victor.. I think it's because he's been foisted upon us. I've always felt that. No woman I know moistens their panties over Braeden. Unless theyr'e gold diggers.

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Chance/Chloe/Billy/Mac. Meh. I'm not feeling any of it. I'm not feeling Chloe and Billy, I'm certainly not feeling Mac and Billy, and Chance is just too new and underdeveloped. Here's hoping forthcoming events infuse this with some depth, but I suspect it's more shock and awe.

It's all the same drum being beaten again and again. Billy's crazy, but you gotta love him! He does what other men won't! He manages to make every single conversation about him. To use Colleen's death as an excuse to get family to give him money is very tacky. His giddy reaction when Ashley gave him the cash tells me this isn't about avenging Colleen, or getting back at the Newmans, or whatever he spouts. It's about once again being given the world all while claiming he is deprived.

They ruined Billy/Chloe, if there was ever anything there in the first place (I haven't really seen any chemistry between BM and EH -- the only men I've seen her have chemistry with were Bryton, and eventually, Daniel Goddard; I don't think Billy is open enough as a character to have chemistry with anyone), when Billy screwed around with Sharon, even the night before his wedding to Chloe. Someone at the show seems to think that damaged people somehow = true love. I don't buy it. I have never, ever seen Billy do anything for Chloe, and Chloe is so neurotic as a character, complete with wacky sitcom neurosis music. It's all too Ally McBeal.

I have to agree with Y&RWT that everything in the Adam/Sharon/Ashley story is too pat. Sharon and Ashley didn't really notice each other until this story, and while the actresses work well together, I can't invest when I imagine this will all end badly, that they will be split up in a friendship created only for this story. And I am disgusted by the show's attempts to make us pity Adam and want him to be with Sharon, considering what he has done to her. I'm tired of Adam and his googly-eyed moroseness.

I did like the scenes with the doppleganger, Victor, and Jack, minus Jack sniffing around her, but I still think it's all too neatly tied up. This woman stands up for herself and authoratively shuts down Victor's attempts to deflect blame on her. I think they are trying to tell us that this woman helped make Patty what she is. I think in time they may even have her be crazier than Patti.

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Well.. today was nice. I would get rid of Luckinbill with this marriage on the rocks thing. But it's probably not going to happen. I was so sad to see Beth go, once again, she performs with grace and dignity. Adam is just a mess. I don't know what they should do with him. I loved the preview for tomorrow... Jack telling Billy to "watch and learn".

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Adam is just a mess. I don't know what they should do with him.

My guess is that TIIC will eventually try to redeem him by using the much over used "brain tumor" excuse. I can see it now--- the tumor is in the part of the brain that controls behavior sooooooooo he couldn't help it.

This of course will not satisfy MarkH who wants the much over used "sexual abuse at the hands of a evil step parent" excuse which IMO is just as bad/lazy as the brain tumor defense. I'd leave Adam just the way he is but would tone him back just a bit to keep every body guessing what his next move(s) will be. He's just so predicitable now that all he's missing is a twirling moustash.

I loved the preview for tomorrow... Jack telling Billy to "watch and learn".

Now if only TIIC would let Billy (and by extension Jack) win this one, this s/l might hold some interest for me. Especially if Chloe starts to undermind Billy's every move. I can see it now --while Billy/Jack are working on TGVN, Chloe (bless her heart) is chip, chipping away.

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