1 hour ago, Neil Johnson said:

Was Sara MacIntyre still there in 1982?  I thought Marland wrote her off.  And I'm surprised Jennifer is still there too.  Wow.

 

That's an odd mix for the cast shots. I think I see the last Tim recast. I thought he was also gone by this time. 

15 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

It's such a pity that GL took an axe to the cast to make way for newbies. 

If only they has kept a better mix. Tghe show had nothing to fall back on as each new writers dropped some of the previous gegimes and introduced new characters

We had remnants of the Bauers, Reardons, Shaynes, Lewis but no strong core.

How many of those older/longer running characters actually wanted to leave?

Justin for example?

 

Most of them didn't seem to want to go. Some of the firings, like Tom O'Rourke, will forever puzzle me. It's as if someone at P&G saw a greenlight to plow through the cast for shiny new objects...not having the common sense to see that most of these objects would not stay long-term and that many fans would not support or accept these choices. GL was very lucky to stay on the air. 

 

I will never get past how eerie it is to see Jerry ver Dorn doing the goodbye for Charita Bauer. The man had been on the show for 5 years yet he was the senior cast member! Insane. And if viewers, and presumably cast and crew, had not taken Jerry into their hearts so quickly, he likely would have been gone too. 

7 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

That's an odd mix for the cast shots. I think I see the last Tim recast. I thought he was also gone by this time. 

 

Is it possible this is the wrong opening credits for this episode?  Maybe someone just edited it into the video?  Is there a GL expert here, who can verify all those characters were still on the show in 1982?

12 minutes ago, Neil Johnson said:

 

Is it possible this is the wrong opening credits for this episode?  Maybe someone just edited it into the video?  Is there a GL expert here, who can verify all those characters were still on the show in 1982?

 

I wonder if they were just slow to update the credits (although you'd think it would have been easy to change out a few shots).

4 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

I wonder if they were just slow to update the credits (although you'd think it would have been easy to change out a few shots).

 

Funny, but I don't remember ever seeing Sara or Jennifer in the disco-opening before.  

13 minutes ago, Neil Johnson said:

 

Funny, but I don't remember ever seeing Sara or Jennifer in the disco-opening before.  

 

And they're in them until at least March 1983. I guess these must have been stock credits they didn't want to bother changing...

 

 

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

 

And they're in them until at least March 1983. I guess these must have been stock credits they didn't want to bother changing...

 

 

 

Looks like Mike Bauer has been removed from this one.  Does anyone know approximately when Sara and Jennifer left the show?  

 

15 hours ago, Kimmy said:

Oh yeah. For years??...lol. Well I don't consider that bullying to be honest.  Not towards me. And no one controls my keyboard but me. Assuming he/she is not a moderator

You’re right - you control your keyboard. Glad you’re not letting anyone control it for you even though some will try. 

1 hour ago, Neil Johnson said:

 

Looks like Mike Bauer has been removed from this one.  Does anyone know approximately when Sara and Jennifer left the show?  

 

My records show Millette Alexander’s last episode as 12/24/82 and Geraldine Court’s last episode as 2/4/83. Mike Bauer was in the opening you referenced above. He didn’t leave until 1984. 

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46 minutes ago, VanessaReardon said:

You’re right - you control your keyboard. Glad you’re not letting anyone control it for you even though some will try. 

My records show Millette Alexander’s last episode as 12/24/82 and Geraldine Court’s last episode as 2/4/83. Mike Bauer was in the opening you referenced above. He didn’t leave until 1984. 

 

Thank you for the information.  Do you know if Sara was written out, or did she just stop appearing?  Was Sara still important in the storylines up until she left?  Or had she been minimized?

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Been looking for Annie’s fantasy starting at 22:30 for the longest as all I remembered was a pregnant Reva LOL Watros is on fire here:

 

 

1 hour ago, Neil Johnson said:

 

Thank you for the information.  Do you know if Sara was written out, or did she just stop appearing?  Was Sara still important in the storylines up until she left?  Or had she been minimized?

I can only confirm with the last question that Sara indeed had been minimized on the show for her last year or so. Not sure how she was written out though.

What stories were left to tell with Sara?  All I could have seen her contribute in 1983 and thereafter was as the resident therapist.  She probably would have counseled Beth after the rape, and Reva plus roxie...but what else was left to tell of Sara?

38 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

What stories were left to tell with Sara?  All I could have seen her contribute in 1983 and thereafter was as the resident therapist.  She probably would have counseled Beth after the rape, and Reva plus roxie...but what else was left to tell of Sara?

 

According to this newspaper article dated January 15, 1983 Millette Alexander decided to leave the show of her own accord.  Interesting that Giancarlo Esposito (currently Moff Gideon on The Mandalorian) was cast on the show at the time as Clay Tynan and that Micki Grant who played John Randolph's secretary Peggy Nolan for much of the 60s and early 70s on Another World was playing his mother Ms. Tynan.  Was GL planning on making the Tynans a new African-American family on GL and they got lost in the shuffle in the change of headwriters?  

 

 

16 hours ago, Neil Johnson said:

Was Sara MacIntyre still there in 1982?  I thought Marland wrote her off.  And I'm surprised Jennifer is still there too.  Wow.

 

Sara remained on the show through Pat Falken Smith's excellent-but-brief tenure as head writer in 1982, and was written out by subsequent scribes during the cast massacre of the early 1980s.

 

15 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

It's such a pity that GL took an axe to the cast to make way for newbies. 

If only they has kept a better mix. Tghe show had nothing to fall back on as each new writers dropped some of the previous gegimes and introduced new characters

We had remnants of the Bauers, Reardons, Shaynes, Lewis but no strong core.

How many of those older/longer running characters actually wanted to leave?

Justin for example?

 

Most of the vets were fired and did not leave voluntarily. Peter Simon (Ed) recalled that on his final day of taping, Tom O'Rourke (Justin) ranted and raved his entire way out of the building.

8 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

Sara remained on the show through Pat Falken Smith's excellent-but-brief tenure as head writer in 1982, and was written out by subsequent scribes during the cast massacre of the early 1980s.

 

 

Most of the vets were fired and did not leave voluntarily. Peter Simon (Ed) recalled that on his final day of taping, Tom O'Rourke (Justin) ranted and raved his entire way out of the building.

 

I still find it hard to believe that both Mike and Hope Bauer were written off the show around 1984, and none of the subsequent writers thought it might be a good idea to bring either of them back to town.  The Bauers were such an interesting flawed core-family, surely they would have been wonderful to write for.  They weren't perfect like the Hughes or the Matthews.   

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