Thanks. I saw it on DeviantArt, but I did credit the person who made it. It's the Fourth Doctor.

I like your festive SB avatar too (is that Amy/Brick again?).

Yep - that was them sharing a tender moment with son Johnny, Christmas 1985.

That logo was CLASSIC. It replaced a bland typeface of several years. It survived several alterations and two theme songs, also with variations. And while it was replaced with the wonderful HOLD ON TO LOVE as a theme song, the 90's logo was not the best it could be.

But yeah, to each their own--those of us who actually WATCHED GL, and those who have no sense of its history. You HAD to be there. You weren't.

Detergent ad? No. And that title card predates Long. It was instituted when Doug Marland was writing and Allen Potter producing GL.

It's a lighthearted opinion on a logo in the closing credits. She wasn't damning GL to eternal hellfires.

She didn't even watch GL then. It's a useless opinion, with no historical context.

Must you always leap to her defense, Carl? I didn't damn her to eternal hellfires either.

I guess I just don't see why someone's opinion of a show is invalid if they weren't watching at the time. If posters came here and were belittling the show and the people involved, and they'd never watched, then I'd be upset. If someone hadn't watched the show at the time and just wants to ask questions and give their opinions, I don't think it's a bad thing.

I think GL had the best logos and themes of any soap. I enjoy pretty much all of them - even the disco theme that many deride. And I think that logo is nice too, especially the glitterling gold leaves as the credits roll. I do think it can look a little like a detergent logo at times too. And that's mostly how the comment came across to me - a harmless observation. Not a putdown of GL or its theme.

I'm not trying to jump to anyone's defense. I mostly come here to talk to her and you and everyone else about the show, because GL was my favorite soap and I still like to relive memories and learn new things and see new things. I just don't think she said anything that awful. I'm sure she can speak for herself, so I apologize for speaking for her.

Whoa! I didn't realize I was starting a war here.

To be clear - I am 35 years old so I did grow up in the 80s. OK, the daytime shows I watched back then were mostly cartoons - but my mother didn't allow my sister and I to watch soaps until we were in our teens. With the advent of YouTube, I started watching the classic soaps online and just fell in love with them.

Don't get me wrong - I LOVE the 80s. I love how everything was big, colorful and fun. Soaps actually had budgets back then so fans were treated to luxurious weddings and elaborate location shots. TPTB actually still cared about the quality of their daytime dramas. Such a shame those days are gone forever. (OK, some of the hairstyles and clothes are better left in the past, but I digress.)

Just something about that logo reminds me of dishwashing detergent commercials - with all those sparkles in the title card. I didn't mean it in a BAD way. Sorry for expressing an opinion that has absolutely nothing to do with the plots, actors, writers, etc., whatsoever.

Amy no need to defend your OPINION. Thats what we all have and we have the right to have them and share them. Then hopefully those that disagree will do it with civility,

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She seemed to get along with Kelly well enough in the few clips of that era that are around (like when Quint was in the hospital after Rebecca made them crash their car). She and Hillary seemed to have little interaction, even when Hillary was dating Nola's brother, but I guess they got along OK.

I think Morgan had little interaction with her as she wasn't in the hospital setting, so their only tie was through Floyd. And by late 1982 or so Morgan and Kelly split for good so her stories were through her family and Josh, who had even less to do with Nola than Kelly did.

Marland was fond enough of Lisa Brown that he worked overtime to make sure she wasn't judged by viewers for her actions with Morgan and Kelly, which meant cutting off most of her interaction with them. They kept her secret (I'm not sure if Floyd ever found out about her lies and schemes and that she'd just been using him for sperm - I'm sure he must have but I don't know when) so as not to hurt Floyd. Nola despised Morgan, utterly despised her, so I give Morgan some credit for moving on as well as she did.

Thanks for the clarification, buddy!

I'm just glad that in the end, Nola got the happy ending she always wanted. I do wish though that GL would've brought back Kelly and Morgan in later years. I would've liked to have seen if Morgan would cause ruckus to Josh and Reva. Or how Kelly would've felt about Nola being older and wiser. Would he wonder if Nola was the one and try and pursue her and bust up her and Quint?

That would have been interesting. I guess JWS was still too busy in primetime to be around during Nola's 95-98 run, but it would have been a cute cameo at the end of the show if he returned to the hospital just as she and Quint popped in.

That would have been interesting. I guess JWS was still too busy in primetime to be around during Nola's 95-98 run, but it would have been a cute cameo at the end of the show if he returned to the hospital just as she and Quint popped in.

Yes! I'd rather him return to GL instead of that stint he had on OLTL as creepy papa Ford. Especially, when he looked younger than one of his sons *coughs* Lenny Platt *coughs*

It would have been so great if he and Kristen Vigard had come back for that final week. What could have been...

I'm still pissed that Bert Bauer didn't even get a mention in the last episode. What a travesty.

It would have been so great if he and Kristen Vigard had come back for that final week. What could have been...

I didn't expect a Bert mention because it was alleged that Wheeler was in the writer's room dictating the final weeks, so I wasn't shocked. She came off as not knowing the show's canon, so I'd be surprised if she knew who Bert Bauer was.

She definitely knew who Bert was. After all, Bert (with Kim Zimmer playing Charita Bauer) was a focus of GL's 70th anniversary episode and Wheeler was executive producer at that point. Plus, I thought Zimmer said in her book that Wheeler wanted to reboot GL back to its early days and call it The New Guiding Light. Zimmer was vague on the details for Wheeler's vision.

I didn't expect a Bert mention because it was alleged that Wheeler was in the writer's room dictating the final weeks, so I wasn't shocked. She came off as not knowing the show's canon, so I'd be surprised if she knew who Bert Bauer was.