All I'm saying we don't know what she can do until she allows to come back. These people they have on the scene now isn't doing anything for Y&R either. They had two years to prove that Dru or VR wasn't needed. & look where they are at now.

It could be the writing. But Even if the writing improves. Y&R still missing something.

Amen!

Oh that's suppose to be a joke. I forgot to laugh. Since you don't like VR. You might not catch up on what she have done. you also might not like watching black movies. But she done movies & had a successful Prime Time show something MS can't do. Laugh at that.

Exactly!

Oh that's suppose to be a joke. I forgot to laugh. Since you don't like VR. You might not catch up on what she have done. you also might not like watching black movies. But she done movies & had a successful Prime Time show something MS can't do. Laugh at that.

I used to like Rowell, but she's just so dang powerful dontcha know that she changed my opinion! As for what she's been up to post-Y&R, imdb.com only lists one gig. Ouch. Don't know what Stafford has to do with this particular subject, but we don't know how many gigs she could've potentially scored in the past 2 years because she's been busy with her steady daytime job that unemployed actors so desperately envy.

I used to like Rowell, but she's just so dang powerful dontcha know that she changed my opinion! As for what she's been up to post-Y&R, imdb.com only lists one gig. Ouch. Don't know what Stafford has to do with this particular subject, but we don't know how many gigs she could've potentially scored in the past 2 years because she's been busy with her steady daytime job that unemployed actors so desperately envy.

Aww because she telling it like it is. she hurt your itty bitty show now you don't like her. She didn't have to tell me how Y&R are. Y&R isn't no different from any other soaps. They are all terrible to their black characters. Put them in their own little corners.

Edited September 17, 200916 yr by MoTheGreat

Aww because she telling it like it is. she hurt your itty bitty show now you don't like her. She didn't have to tell me how Y&R are. Y&R isn't no different from any other soaps. They are all terrible to their black characters. Put them in their own little corners.

Pretty much. :lol:

Pretty much.

You know what I'm saying. Black viewers except certian things & they never fails us black viewers. SO I cheer VR on.

You know what I'm saying. Black viewers except certian things & they never fails us black viewers. SO I cheer VR on.

Indeed!

Rowell isn't worth losing Stafford and Bergman. No way, no how.

CK isn't black enough to keep black viewers interest in the black characters. So that bitch better shut her damn mouth or leave the role of Lily for somebody that can keeping the black characters interesting.

CK isn't black enough? Why, because she doesn't use words like "wack" and call people "sistah"? Sorry, but saying all black characters should be like that is like saying all gay characters should be skinny, effeminate, limp-wristed hairdressers.

I am by no means saying CK is some brilliant actress. She's passable. But the "not black enough" argument is assinine.

But first of all, folks like Stafford and Bergman (and, yup, even Khalil) have fan contingents. The latter two actually have pretty big ones.

Khalil's fan base is bigger than Stafford's?

Dru is as big as Victor, Jack, Jill, Nikki

All of those characters were around LONG before Dru. And there's no way known she's as big as Victor.

and bigger than Phyllis. Bigger and more essential.

Jesus Christ no.

Did Jack Smith worry about Bergman, Stafford, and half his cast when he rehired Rowell in earlier in the decade? No, he did what was best for the show.

IIRC, Rowell's problems with Bergman and Stafford didn't begin until her 2002-2007 stint.

Exactly. She's running her mouth for absolutely no reason. Victoria should deal with this internally. That's what real people do during negotiations. They don't run their mouth to the public. What was the point of tweeting this? To show that you're even more unhinged? How does this situation make your potential boss say, "Okay, let's hire her now." Do you see the alleged 3 tweeting or talking to the public about this situation? No.

THANKYOU.

Edited September 17, 200916 yr by y&r_fan

What makes any of you think both Bergman and Stafford will break their contracts, risk getting sued, and walk away from a consistent paycheck as soon as Victoria Rowell returns?

If they quit, that's their problem if they want to be sued and walk away from a paycheck.

the alleged 3

And of course VR will only allude to one. What a joke. But if CK has that much pull then here's to the 21 year old throwing her 105 pounds around.

clamoring to get her soap job back.

And big bad CK is standing in her way. Boo hoo.

What makes any of you think both Bergman and Stafford will break their contracts, risk getting sued, and walk away from a consistent paycheck as soon as Victoria Rowell returns?

If they quit, that's their problem if they want to be sued and walk away from a paycheck.

Their current contracts will end eventually. At that point they will be free to go. I'd rather not run the risk.

What makes any of you think both Bergman and Stafford will break their contracts, risk getting sued, and walk away from a consistent paycheck as soon as Victoria Rowell returns?

If they quit, that's their problem if they want to be sued and walk away from a paycheck.

Yep.

And big bad CK is standing in her way. Boo hoo.

Precisely.

VR labelled CK a "valley girl" and made no secret of her preference for Davetta Sherwood(en). How is CK supposed to feel?

CK's issues with her onscreen family began LONG before the valley girl comment.

CK's issues with her onscreen family began LONG before the valley girl comment.

Really? When?

Really? When?

Yep.

Early into her first run.