Sorry I'm late with this, let's bump our gums!

Edited September 15, 200916 yr by alphanguy74

I didn't even notice the thread was missing . Between SON being down and other stuff, a few of us posted in last week's thread. Maybe it is time to go down to a monthly thread?

In any event, the quotes below reflect this-week-comments that were written in the other thread by three of us.

I thought Monday's US Y&R was interesting.

Although Victoria's apparent sex with Deacon was "WTF", it was nice to see the walls crumble and to have Victoria explain some of her behavior. JT and Victoria are definitely more interesting this way, and it is interesting to have JT be the "good guy" in this twist. It may make him recall his feelings for Colleen...which will make her current dire straits all the more painful for him.

There is no question that Traci...and in this case, the actress' sincere emotion for Colleen...is a necessary and welcome part of this tale. What is lacking is that both Jack and Ashley were off screen. It would be more meaningful if Ashley were sane for a few minutes, and if she and Jack could rally around Traci. This is also a time for ghost Dad. I'm sure all of this is coming...but the absence of it suppresses some of the emotion.

It is also false to me that Kevin and Daniel (both of whom have a history with Colleen....especially Kevin) wouldn't set aside their current dramas for Coll.

That said, I was grateful for Kev's "moment of clarity" regarding Ryder.

The romantic reconnections of Kev/Jana, Daniel/Amber and Murphy/Katherine were all injections of the kind of "slow down, reconnect emotionally" that many of us have been crying for. BUT, tonally, I felt yesterday's episode was the wrong show to do it in. I kept feeling "Damn, how can you all be so preoccupied and selfish when Colleen is in trouble?" Rather than being "welcome relief", it felt more like a frustrating non-sequiture.

I am not enjoying a slow week of torture porn where Colleen is concerned. Watching her suffer at the hands of this increasingly disconnected psycho is not my idea of fun.

I'm glad Ashley isn't involved in the Colleen storyline. She had no problem siding with Victor over Colleen, she doesn't care about her family. To see her broken up over Colleen would seem false. Jack can't be involved because they want us to see Jack as being as much at fault in this as Victor, if not more.

I liked Daniel and Amber last year but over time, and especially after Deacon and the rape/not rape, I don't think I want them to stay together. Kevin and Jana I like together but not in a passionate sense.

It was nice to see Katherine and Murphy.

What's happening to Colleen reminds me of the weeks and weeks spent on Adam tormenting Ashley. Someone at the show seems to get off on this.

Victoria sleeping with JT is kind of like karma for him. Remember he was sleeping with her when she was still married to Brad. If he suddenly falls in love with Colleen because Victoria slept Deacon that'll piss me off. It'll seem plot driven to me.

It's not suprising that not everyone is worried about Colleen. Everyone is isolated in their own storylines. EX: Daniel is having leagal trouble, but Phyllis is too busy trying to keep Nick (It's moments like that that make me forget that Daniel is Phyllis's son).

I'm suprised that Daniel even sent over a fruit basket to Lily.

This show is a trainwreck.

Monday's episode was HORRIBLE, IMO.

The Colleen/Patty stuff is ridiculously campy and morbid, not to mention, Patty is irredeemable in my eyes, and I want her to suffer or die. I have no use for this character anymore.

The Victoria/Deacon nonsense is stupid and rushed. I have no connection to it, no matter how ruined the characters are and how badly plotted it has all been. These characters are a waste. If the writers don't invest in their own storylines, no matter how bad they are, then why should I? While I'm glad such a stupid storyline is being rushed though, I just have no connection to this story, and the writers sure as hell haven't given me a reason to be invested in it.

Deacon needs to leave Y&R, like yesterday.

We're heading into the fall, and not much is changing. When will this show be redeemed and when will we get a better writing and producing regime that is less egotistical and more talented in there? I keep hoping for better stories and episodes, and it's not happening. Sigh, we really are at the end of the road where daytime is concerned.

Edited September 15, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Mark, that was very courteous of you!

And yay for the Brooks family, even if Lorie isn't there. They should try to bring Janice Lynde back as Leslie.

Under all the other writing regimes of Y&R, Colleen was never a box of rocks. This character is now portrayed as so stupid she deserves to go away forever.

It is such a shame that they took Patty to these irredeemable lengths. Stacy Haiduk is wonderful and could have had a very long term future as the nutty, PR woman. Hopefully she'll find a role on a better show than Y&R when they have finished destroying Patty.

Oh my Gahhhd, Abby, STHU... that rant to Jack was so awful and annoying!

This is the week Tom Casiello was tweeting about? That they worked so hard on?! I'm shocked at how poor the execution of this story is. They've been promoting Thursday, but the build up is terrible. Just too campy and underwhelming and the other stories don't connect well with this. It just feels like any old boring week. Shame to see Colleen going out on such a sour note. I'm bored.

Casiello always works on Hogan shows, right? This week, Jack being made the scapegoat to hide Victor's wrongdoing, and Colleen being roughed up and tormented for the pleasure of viewers, is pure Hogan. So I guess if we want to see great examples of why Hogan is one of the most overrated writers in the history of daytime, this is the week.

This week is also why I do not care for this version of Abby. She is barely above awful when they give her glib material. Trying to give her material which is anything close to demanding is disastrous.

Who is casting Y&R? It's been misfire after misfire for a while now. The nonexistent direction does not help. Is anyone actually in charge of this show?

Edited September 15, 200916 yr by CarlD2

Casiello always works on Hogan shows, right? This week, Jack being made the scapegoat to hide Victor's wrongdoing, and Colleen being roughed up and tormented for the pleasure of viewers, is pure Hogan. So I guess if we want to see great examples of why Hogan is one of the most overrated writers in the history of daytime, this is the week.

This week is also why I do not care for this version of Abby. She is barely above awful when they give her glib material. Trying to give her material which is anything close to demanding is disastrous.

Who is casting Y&R? It's been misfire after misfire for a while now. The nonexistent direction does not help. Is anyone actually in charge of this show?

Like his boss Sheffer, Casiello is out of his element on Y&R. Hogan doesn't get the show, neither does Casiello. He didn't get it the first time around. TPTB should drop both pronto.

Casiello wrote for Y&R before?

I've never really gotten the hype with him. He did write a nice speech for Karen. Perhaps they should have him write for Jill and have Jill go around hitting various characters. I'd like that.

You all know better than to trust most of the writers of these shows, especially this show, when they tease about "good" stuff coming up. Since they're apart of crafting some of these stories or episodes, I don't think they're very objective in their overall opinions.

They might have been "working hard" but I see no difference on this show.

And I do agree about 90% of the writers on Y&R's writing team not "getting" the show, hence how hallow everything from the individual scenes to the dialogue feels. The show feels void of a heart and especially of a soul.

Edited September 15, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

oh good lord Abby was such a brat when she went off on Jack

Can someone please run a brush through Sharon's hair?

Can someone please run a brush through Sharon's hair?

LOL, I thought the same

Ok seriously, this is all we have to say about the show?!!! Tomorrow is going to be Wednesday, shouldn't we have a post count quota or something!! Like a stretch goal for the week!!

Edited September 16, 200916 yr by JimTolkien