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[danfling]

No, I had thought that the question about the recasts was about Where the Heart Is.   I hope that no one was TOO confused.

 

[Joseph]

Doesn't anyone around have anything of this show really?????????

NOT A THING? 

God I think I might be crazy to make a plea like that but I must try

[vetsoapfan]

As previously noted, fans and collectors have hunted for material from this show for 40+ years, to no avail.

[Joseph]

yes i know you very kindly pointed that out, but one never knows

 

[vetsoapfan]

True, a variety of soap material has surprised the fan community over the years by popping up unexpectedly. If RTPP videos are ever uncovered, the sleuths here will find out and share the good news. They always do, thankfully. 

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[Joseph]

By the way what was the Selena Storyline? I couldn't find much info, all I know is she married Dr Rossi and pushed Connie off a staircase 

[Chris B]

There's a man on youtube with a page called Obsolete Video and I think if anybody could find it, it's him. He's posted an impossible to find 70s Y&R episode and he's posted color closing credits from the 70s soaps, that haven't been available in anything other than B&W kinescope. As he buys collections I feel he could uncover something.

[Joseph]

Ele thanks I'll try to talk him I'll let everyone here know if I get anything 

[Paul Raven]

The talk of James Douglas in the AW thread had me wondering if he was approached to play Steven Cord in RTPP.

Pat Morrow,Evelyn Scott and Frank Ferguson returned which leads me to believe that others may have been approached.

Obviously Ryan and Mia would not have been interested and I can't see Barbara Parkins agreeing, even though her career stalled after PP.

Ed Nelson and Christopher Connelly were getting primetime gigs.

Dorothy Malone seems to have pretty much retired and Tim O'Connor I don't think would be interested in daytime. 

Obviously Ruth Warrick wasn't available.

So that pretty much leaves James. He agreed the following year to AW and then spent many years on ATWT.

Maybe he wanted to be in New York?

Or didn't want to be Steven Cord again?

Or possibly when RTPP began in 72 he wasn't interested in daytime but a slow year could make a difference...by 73 a steady gig may have held more appeal?

[Chris 2]

James Douglas didn’t do the MIPP movie in 1977 (his role was recast with David Hedison) but did agree to PP: TNG in 1985. Perhaps he was worried about typecasting in the 70s, and then he realized in the 80s that it was too late.

[Nicholas Blair]

I did see a little of RTTP. Saw a little toward the beginning, but it was very slow and I had never seen Peyton Place, so I didn't watch much. Saw some of Katherine Glass, who was first-rate, as she was on OLTL. She had that waif-like presence which makes people want to comfort and protect her. I knew Joseph Gallison from AW, and liked him in everything I ever saw him play. And I knew Mary K. Wells from TSS, and she was good as always.

Then I saw more of it toward the end, where there was too much talk about "the enabling legislation for the deepwater port," and I didn't figure out if that legislation was a good thing or not. Pamela Shoop was very pretty, and as someone said, she had a Southern California vibe, quite different from Katherine Glass. I liked Charles Sailor as Tom Dana, a good-looking guy, and Margaret Mason was a wonderfully smirky troublemaker, just as she later would be on DOOL and as she later would be on Y&R, and why the soaps didn't keep her around all the time being smirky and evil is a mystery to me. I also liked Mary Frann as D.B. Bentley and enjoyed her subsequent career.

There were elements that could have worked, given more time and good stories. I seem to have seen a lot of shows at the end of their run. I loved WTHI and was crushed when it was canceled; LIAMST was a solid show and I had enjoyed the last year; TSS would have been OK with better writers, and it had Jada and Marla; HTSAM was a mess when it was canceled, having dropped all the original male actors in about a year, and the only improvement was that Armand Assante had stopped trying to speak with an Irish accent; Somerset, after good years under Cenedella and Slesar, was in "let's throw stuff at the wall and hope something sticks" mode; FRFP never really took off though it wasn't bad. RTPP was on that borderline where the network could have given it time or not. Some of these canceled shows were in bad time slots for different reasons, which also hurt.

 

 

[danfling]

In 1972, wasn't James Douglas playing Elliott Carrington on Another World?

[Paul Raven]

James Douglas began playing Eliot in Dec 72. 

[Paul Raven]

[Paul Raven]

A question regarding Joe Gallison.

He joined Where The Heart Is in March 73, a month before RTPP debuted.

So was Steven Cord not part of the original cast?

When did Joe/Steven come on?

Joe was a 'big name' in soaps having been very popular as Bill Matthews on AW and playing Tom Edwards on OLTL.

So what was the deal with Joe joining WTHI and leaving soon after?

Did any of the mags at the time make mention of this?