4 minutes ago, slick jones said:

That's not what I've got, but years of newspaper and magazine errors have done me wrong before.

He was on Edge as Ed from 60-63, so no later than mid 1960 or  after 63.  There's a Cliff Williams in 1962 he may have replaced the two actors from '62 in 1963.

The episode seems to take place after summer school, and Lynn Loring left in 1961 (unless that info is wrong), so I was guessing late summer of 1960 or maybe 1959 (?). I hope someone can help us out. He definitely introduces himself as Cliff, unless that was a line flub and he called himself Curt elsewhere. 

So good to see a new ep posted. Means there is more classic stuff out there.

Ted and Millicent are listed as being on 57-58 as is Larry Hagman.

Lynn Loring would have been 13/14 in 57/58 but Patti may have been aged up a bit to be part of more adult storylines.

Pity there were no credits as we don't know who played Ted.

Larry was channeling his Junior JR Ewing here with that look at Patti at the end.

Loved Patti offering him a ciggie-already becoming the perfect hostess. Ted was puffing away earlier also.

It looks like they were hinting that Patti would become enamored of Cliff and he would take advantage. 

As  for the confusion with Cliff/Curt a lot of info printed in books about old soaps has turned out to be wrong-dates.names etc.

Maybe the wonderful Jam can find some newspaper articles that refer to these characters that might verify things.

8 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

So good to see a new ep posted. Means there is more classic stuff out there.

Ted and Millicent are listed as being on 57-58 as is Larry Hagman.

Lynn Loring would have been 13/14 in 57/58 but Patti may have been aged up a bit to be part of more adult storylines.

Pity there were no credits as we don't know who played Ted.

Larry was channeling his Junior JR Ewing here with that look at Patti at the end.

Loved Patti offering him a ciggie-already becoming the perfect hostess. Ted was puffing away earlier also.

It looks like they were hinting that Patti would become enamored of Cliff and he would take advantage. 

As  for the confusion with Cliff/Curt a lot of info printed in books about old soaps has turned out to be wrong-dates.names etc.

Maybe the wonderful Jam can find some newspaper articles that refer to these characters that might verify things.

Thanks. For some reason I thought Patti's exit involved her going to college, so that was another reason I wasn't sure of the date, but if three different characters in this time frame are listed as 57-58 then it must be right. 

6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks. For some reason I thought Patti's exit involved her going to college, so that was another reason I wasn't sure of the date, but if three different characters in this time frame are listed as 57-58 then it must be right. 

On the other hand, Patti mentions a new physician, Dr. Walton, to Ted, and that character is listed as debuting in 1960.

Tracking down exact dates for vintage soaps can be challenging, but I am so glad to see a "new" episode like this pop up, even if its timeframe is murky. 

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

@DRW50 Great find. Sorry i don't have any info. My knowledge of SFT is limited to it's last years.

5 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

On the other hand, Patti mentions a new physician, Dr. Walton, to Ted, and that character is listed as debuting in 1960.

Tracking down exact dates for vintage soaps can be challenging, but I am so glad to see a "new" episode like this pop up, even if its timeframe is murky. 

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

This is probably the Dr Walton that later married Janet Bergman, and was the father of Liza and Gary.  

7 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

On the other hand, Patti mentions a new physician, Dr. Walton, to Ted, and that character is listed as debuting in 1960.

Slick's SFT cast list has the first Dan Walton played by Allan Miller as 1958-59 so 1958 seems to be the likely year for this episode.

Looks like the uploader said  earlier today that they had looked at the kinescope date and it was  August 31, 1960. So I guess it was  either that date or it was sold to another country at a later date... (although the  GL is next part  may make that less  likely, I don't know).

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1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

Slick's SFT cast list has the first Dan Walton played by Allan Miller as 1958-59 so 1958 seems to be the likely year for this episode.

The published reference books I have say 1960, but heaven knows, even history books can be laden with errors.

 

3 hours ago, Neil Johnson said:

This is probably the Dr Walton that later married Janet Bergman, and was the father of Liza and Gary.  

Right.

I tried to find some info about Larry on SFT and could find none. His first tv gig ever was in January 1957 and by 1961 he was playing Ed Gibson on Edge of Night. Apparently they were giving Larry more to do because John Larkin as Mike Karr was planning to leave the show in Oct 1961. 

6 hours ago, Neil Johnson said:

This is probably the Dr Walton that later married Janet Bergman, and was the father of Liza and Gary.  

Yes, and Danny.

Allison Argo played Cindy French in 1977 (Source: DNS, September 1977)

I googled the Ted character, doesn't he cause Patti to be paralyzed ? 

I saw some clip with Patti paralized in youtube some years ago...so I suppose that episode also exists....the episode with Larry Hagman is 31 August 1960....some fans had it and some people sell it in some soap lists and circles. I hope more episodes from the 60s pop up in youtube

44 minutes ago, MissPalmer said:

I saw some clip with Patti paralized in youtube some years ago...so I suppose that episode also exists....the episode with Larry Hagman is 31 August 1960....some fans had it and some people sell it in some soap lists and circles. I hope more episodes from the 60s pop up in youtube

Thanks for that information.