Y&R: Episode Discussion for the week of August 10

[cara mia]

Estella's Resume

July 08 - May 09

Housekeeper, Newman Ranch

Jan 01- Jun 08

Housekeeper, VP of the United States

Jan 79-Jan 01

RESTRICTED

Jan 73-Jan 79

Housekeeper, Shah of Iran

Jan 64 - Nov 72

Housekeeper & Personal Seamstress, Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Jan 60 - Nov 63

Cleaning Lady, Texas School Book Depository

[lovely_m]

Was is just me or did Bryton McClure and Doug Davidson wear the same shirt? Paul was wearing a grey thermal and on Friday's ep Devon was wearing the same shirt.

I thought about that too! But this is not the first storyline of hers that she ripped off.

Everyone thought Victor was dead and Adam looked like an ass.

Everyone thought Katherine was dead and Jill looked like an ass.

Adam got kicked out of Newman and had to beg for a job, with no success.

Billy got kicked out of Jabot and had to beg for a job, with no success.

Colleen throws herself at Daniel and is in a triangle with Daniel and Amber.

Colleen throws herself at JT and is in a triangle with Victoria and JT.

Micheal finds out he has another sibling.

Kevin finds out he has another sibling.

Nick realizes he wants Sharon. Cassie is proof as to why he needs to be with her.

Nick realizes he wants Phyllis. Summer is proof as to why he needs to be with her.

Maybe someone will sue MAB for plagerising herself.

[Stevie]

Getting rid of Hogan Sheffer would be a start and Hamner as well.

The the Characters that have been monopolizing the screen and are destroyed to me are most definately Adam and Patty. When you cross the line of harming children or pregnant women on purpose that to me is it. They need to go.

Those 2 storylines alone are basically turning away viewers in my opinion.

In fact I have been a loyal fan of the show since the start and I was just a child along with family member's and they have tuned out and will continue to until those storylines end.

They cannot take it and I agree.

I watch because I am trying to hold out hope and better for the show.

Most of them except one real life friend of mine posts but the rest do not post online and are just disgusted with Adam, Patty, Ghost storylines.

[SOAPSFOREVER]

Can you imagine what a writer like Claire Labine (or Nancy Curlee) could do for this show? She could bring the heart and soul back. Give us the characters we used to recognize, but don't anymore. I think Hogan Sheffer is the worst thing to hit Y&R since LML. Maybe worse. The show misses so many important beats, sacrificing character for plot. So many characters have been destroyed by the current writing regime, notably Ashley, Sharon, Phyllis, Victor. I don't bother to record the show anymore. It's so dark and depressing, and there's no love or real romance any longer. CBS needs to take a long hard look at what's happened to this show and try to save it before it's too late.

[sheilaforever]

I was ready to answer this with an „no more“…

…but then I watched Monday’s episode and then Tuesday’s. And damn I liked it a lot.

The haunting of Ashley is gruesome but not spite of my taste. Adam pulling another despicable stunt on Ashley. Mary Jane confessing to father Todd Williams – fabulous. The pacing is all over the place, as with all stories right now, but from time to time they deliver sth. good and I’m clinging top hope that the writers now to write Adam and Mary Jane out their corners eventually.

I really love the whole Chancellor Inn stuff, except for real and fake Phillip and their quest for humanity, self-approval, Lily’s affection or whatever.

Chance/Chloe/Billy/Mac has been a riot though. And it can’t be stressed enough how awesome it is to have Tricia Cast back. Nina & Paul, Nina & son – it’s always worth tuning in.

I still haven’t seen Devon’s “big” story - BTW loved that fierce tag created by someone “Bryton that b*tch with no last name” - and am sure to be convinced that is dreadful. However, comparing what is wrong with Y&R these days, and it is plenty, with Pornbrosia, Carmen Messed Up, Pheila or the RELIQUARY driving me to the point where I couldn’t stand one single character in Genoa City, the show is still “fine”.

MAB should just get down to business and be more front and centre. Several stories have all the wrongness of Scott Hamner (another dead corpse in a story with Amber & Daniel!?) and Hogan Sheffer (rush pacing; wacko-moments – I’m waiting for the day Sharon or someone else has to squeeze herself through a cat flap) labled all over them.

[rhythmchyc]

Despite the crummy pacing and the rampant stupidity, this is miles ahead better than LML. What Devon and Tyra did and what Adam and MJ have done are just gross; but at least it's not shoved down our throats like Gloria was or that damn Reliquary and Clear Springs stories were. And the way they were hyped... as if Y&R would change for the better made her regime even that more nauseating.

Honestly, I'll take incest over Gloria 24/7. There's really not one character on the show now that needs to be bound and gagged, not even Miller.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

There's different ways of sucking, MAB & Company's suckage is just a different type from LML's. Both very damaging and both bad, just in different ways.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

I agree, and why they're forcing such anti-soap elements on this show makes you wonder.

Sadly, I think Y&R's reputation within the industry has been so tarnished that no one with a good reputation would want to take it on as a HW at this point, as much as I'd like for it to happen.

Also, I want to know how having two Fi-Core writers as Y&R's HW's is helping its image any within the industry and the WGA? It's like they purposely want to harm this show.

But it's definitely time to make some changes before it's too late. I'm hoping behind the scenes and in front of the camera changes are made sooner, rather than later.

[DRW50]

For me the problem isn't even incest, it's the refusal to actually tell stories. Rarely have I seen any soap, especially a soap which is so lauded for its classic style, so reluctant to ever commit to a story. Stories either vanish within a few weeks or go on and on, dying out, the same repetition for months. The gaslighting and this Shick/Phick mess contain some of the worst soap pacing and motivations I can recall.

[Paul Raven]

Hopefully,Sharon will emerge from her stay a stronger character.

At least it is a new set!

Please,no baby switch story.

It's time to send the quad in different directions.Sharon had fond memories of Crimson Lights.How about she buys the bookstore and adds a cafe,creating a new meeting place.

I'd like to see Noah come around and become a supporter of Sharon-some nice mother son scenes.

Sharon should tell Nick and Phyllis the facts about the baby.

Have the characters deal with it,rather than the usual lies and secrets route.

It was a relief not to see Ashley and her breakdown.She needs to be restored to the strong woman she once was and kick Victor to the kerb.

[DeeeDee]

Cause TPTB are all about agendas & fanbases.

[y&r_fan]

Oh, but his name is Bryton James now, as per last week's end credits.

Yep!

[Cat]

They need to get rid of Eva Marcille and put Tatyana Ali on contract. STAT! She had one minute of dialogue and girl still brought the fierce.

I'm actually looking forward to some story for JT and Vamptoria. Perhaps Deacon will jolt the Snorific One awake.

[ian]

Tatyana Ali that's Ashley Banks right?

She's smokin' good. Too bad she couldn't be Lily.

[sheilaforever]

Really? Do you have any hopes for that?

Heinle has been just dreadful in recent weeks and there's no one to blame but her. The writing was there and she failed miserably. Don't think Deacon/Sean Kanan can shake her awake.

JeffreyBot Hellstrom on the other has me slightly interested in forever: I can totally root with for being tempted to cheat and that boring / self-righteous wife of his and he had chemistry with NuMac this past few weeks, not so with Tammin Sursok/Colleen though.