Y&R Episode Discussion for the week of July 13

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Well, I'm keeping the hope alive that behind the scenes changes will be made at Y&R very soon, rather than later.

I think I inherited your lost optimism just now.

[Soapsuds]

Phillip is looking like a real a s s h o l e to me. Well at least he shook my hand. What???? That line really pissed me off! He should have punched him...ignored him....I am sure he will tell him off pretty soon. Phillip made no attempt to connect with his son. And I thought Jill was a cold b i t c h! Phillip is worse!!

[Y&RWorldTurner]

I don't understand their intention of making Phillip III this smug and abrasive since the start of his return. Did they really think this was a good way to introduce this character back?

But at the same time, they're really trying to make people like Cane and better understand him.

I don't get it. I give up.

[lmfan]

I am stunned at how they are handling P3. When he told Nina that she was going to drive away her son like she did to him if she kept forcing him to deal with him. Nina was excited to see her son and mentioned P# a few times. I think I reacted the same way as Nina. Aghast. Who the heck is P3 to say anthing to Nina about her parenting of her son? At least she has parented him and then to once again lay his cowardly actions over the past two decades at her feet is just too much. So while Thom Bierdz is not doing well in his return, the writers are killing him. Most people around the web seem to want him gone and see him as a selfish jerk. So why bring him back just to make him this big of a jerk? Just to bring on P4 and make Cane the good son to Jill even if he isn't biologically related to her?

Is this the same Cane that pretended to want Amber back, had sex with her and then totally humilated her to get even? Now, he and Amber are friends and he wants to save her from her lies. What is he some mind reader now and knows Amber is keeping secrets from Daniel about her past?

And this cancer storyline should make me feel for Lily but it just feels like Summer's coma. I know this is about allowing Lily and Cane to get back together and to reaffirm their love through trying times. I know Lily isn't going to die just like I knew Summer was just put in a coma to bring Phyllis and Nick back together. And I guess the Winters' family will finally get some screen time.

[DRW50]

I just wonder if this is what Thom Bierdz expected. The story has very little to do with Phillip's homosexuality and is mostly about painting him as a selfish jerk and about reminding us Cane's not so bad.

I don't mind Cane but I would rather have seen him written as slightly darker if it meant not trashing a 20 year legacy.

I'm not even sure if they know they're trashing a legacy. I think when they hear "legacy" they probably think, "Ooh, that's what we can name Victor's next child."

[Leia]

I'm beginning to suspect (or hope) that P3 is a fraud.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Or maybe Kitty will awake from a dream and we'll realize that the crap this show has turned into has all been a dream, courtesy of a new writing/producing team of course.

[Scryber96]

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."

--Winston Churchill

[rhythmchyc]

I like that P3 is not playing it sympathetically. He abandoned his child because was scared. If he felt sorry for it, what would he do then? Re-introduce himself into Nina and P4's lives? I doubt they wanna tell that story and this one sparks more drama, I think. They're not telling it well, unfortunately, but I love that P3 is flawed and feels vindicated abandoning everyone.

And I still don't feel that bad for Cane. He just needs to go. Aussiebum should've never been a foster Chancellor son lol.

Victor would never name his children legacy lmao. This child would be Victor the 3rd if he wanted it to be.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Yeah, they aren't telling it well. It's hard to see anything other than Phillip III blaming everyone else around him for decisions he ultimately made. They haven't done a good job showcasing other things about this character since his reintroduction. It's been all about placing blame on other people. It also doesn't help, as YRBB mentioned, they they're sometimes playing what could be 4 weeks worth of material in single episodes. That makes it really hard to digest these characters and their actions sometimes.

[MichaelGL]

I hated P3's reaction to seeing his son today, and later what he said to Nina. WTF?

[Greg's GL]

Just wanted to take a quick break in the discussion to say Y'ALL ROCK. I love this thread!

[brimike]

I totally agree! It's nice to get back to a discussion again.

I knew I liked that guy for a reason.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

So again, if Pattty Jane has no clothing, and her room at the GCAC was empty, then where did she get all of the clothes she wore for the months prior to Victor forcing her out of the GCAC?

I also have to laugh at how well put together she looks for living in a potting shed with no bathroom.

I already mentioned how the security at the Newman Ranch has to be run by hacks for her to easily slip in and out of that property.

[lmfan]

What about all the time Adam is carrying bags to the potting shed? He is out of the house more than he is in the house. At least at the start of this story, they had some tension when Adam snuck out of the house, now it's like he takes the monitoring device on and off like a sock and runs around the ranch with no fear of being discovered. Nobody ever wonders where he is and even when Heather and Rafe were in his bedroom, both seemed unconcerned that Adam was not around the house. They need to get rid of Adam, at least for a little while. He is worse than being evil, he is evil and a whiner.