Members FrenchBug82 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 Yes. However Santa Barbara has an active fandom still today. 70s Another World, particularly since noone will ever get to watch it anymore, is more or less forgotten but for the most hardcore of fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Yeah I guess it is possible that an editor took out the AW stuff. In terms of the soaps, I agree with you that AW was more iconic then SB, but in terms of Nic Coster, I think the role of Lionel Lockridge was more his defining role as an actor then Robert Delaney or Eduardo Grimaldi was. Edited May 20, 2021 by AbcNbc247 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mona Kane Croft Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 Perhaps, but if books contain only the things people remember anyway, then why write books? Especially biographies and autobiographies. 90 percent of the stuff in Nic's book is remembered only by him. Yet he recorded it for posterity. That's one of the most important purposes of books, in my opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Didn't Lemay all but name Coster as the actor he counted as a friend who had a problem learning lines due to alcohol, and that contributed to his exit from AW? Coster tells a different story in his (excellent) WLS interview, but it's understandable that he might, nor is Lemay's word sacrosanct. I've loved Nicholas Coster in so much TV and film - he was always a credit to anything he appeared in. Edited May 20, 2021 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 I don't think he was the one with the drinking problem. In his book, Lemay said that Nic Coster chose not to learn his lines and relied on Beverlee McKinsey to get them through their scenes and that's why he was fired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mona Kane Croft Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Yes, most fans of Lemay's book speculate that actor was Coster. And Lemay's statements about Nic's problem learning lines may have been influenced by complaints from Beverly McKenzie. The "problem" didn't seem to come up, until Nic was working opposite her. Edited May 20, 2021 by Neil Johnson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 I always thought John Fitzpatrick was the one with the drinking problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 I thought Fitzpatrick had other problems - maybe the same ones, but the actor Lemay references re: their past friendship, his place on the show, etc. was very specific and was also not named, unlike Fitzpatrick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mona Kane Croft Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 It's been about a decade since I re-read the book, but wasn't there one actor with a drinking problem (Fitzpatrick), and another actor who had trouble with his lines exacerbated by drinking (Coster)?? Not sure about the details, but I believe Coster had trouble with lines (and maybe drinking), and Fitzpatrick had a drinking problem. It's all really speculation, however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 Well, the fact other actors weren't bothered by it doesn't mean the fact she was wasn't legitimate. Some people are more indulgent with what others count as unprofessionalism but that doesn't mean it is not unprofessionalism. Not that I know what the truth is obviously. Oh I agree with you. I was simply pointing out why it would make sense from the point of view of an editor trying to sell books to focus a whole chapter on SB despite the show not ever having been as important or good as AW was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Yeah. There were two different actors. In the book, Lemay didn't say who was who though, but in an interview that Eddie Drueding has posted on YT page, Lemay said that it was Nic Coster who chose not to memorize his lines. He doesn't refer to him by name though but as "the actor who played Iris' husband." But NC gives a completely different reason in his We Love Soaps interview As for the actor who had the drinking problem, I just assumed it was John Fitzpatrick because he was the only other actor who was let go around the same time, I think Edited May 20, 2021 by AbcNbc247 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members denzo30 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 I certainly don't disagree with AW being more iconic and far better soap than SB could ever be but Nic Costner has made it clear many times his most memorable and favorite soap he ever worked on was SB. I recall him winning the award for his character on SB back in the 80's or early 90's. I never watched the show. Was it Lionel? I clearly remember him stating when accepting the award that SB was the best show he ever worked on. Im thinking this is his emphasis. I don't he cared to much too much spend a lot of time talking about AW as it was just dust like many of the other early soaps he worked on.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty City Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 Another World and Santa Barbara were two completely different soaps in my eyes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted May 20, 2021 Members Share Posted May 20, 2021 I just checked. He won a Soap Digest Award for Supporting Actor for Lionel. He was also nominated for an Emmy a few times but he never won. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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