2 hours ago, watson71 said:

 

Carl probably would have been re-introduced as a villain, and he could have been redeemed by being paired with Felicia after Lucas' death or with Donna after Michael left Bay City.

 

it would have been interesting to see what would have happened to the characters of Mac and Ada had Doug Watson and Constance Ford lived until the series end.  JFP eliminated both Barbara Berjer (Bridget) and David Hedison (Spencer) from the cast in 1995-96.  Would she have been bold enough to eliminate the characters of Mac and Ada too?

 

She killed off Maureen Bauer, the heart and matriarch of TGL. JFP was capable of anything.

If there's any consistency to early '80s AW it's that the show is simultaneously boring as hell and weird as hell. 

 

I'm aware the full episodes are out there, I just don't have any great rush to see it, but what in the world was this obscene caller stuff supposed to be, and was I meant to laugh? Poor Gail Brown. 

 

The comfort level with Kit and a half-naked Joey and Sandy is...very high. Between that and my always thinking they could have easily whipped up a bisexual past for Sandy in his trick-turning days, I imagine I'm reading far more into this scene than I'm meant to.

 

 

Leslie Jackson Bauer Norris Baurer, R. N was the heart and soul of Guiding Light, in my opinion   She too was killed.

On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 4:49 AM, vetsoapfan said:

 

She killed off Maureen Bauer, the heart and matriarch of TGL. JFP was capable of anything.

 

If she had fired DW and/or CF, NBC and P&G never would have heard the end of it. The reaction to Frankie wouldn't even have registered compared to the uproar they would have gotten had that happened.

10 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

If she had fired DW and/or CF, NBC and P&G never would have heard the end of it. The reaction to Frankie wouldn't even have registered compared to the uproar they would have gotten had that happened.

 

There was similar fury when Paul Rauch and Harding Lemay killed off the characters of Mary Matthews and Steven Frame, then fired JC as Alice. Around the same time, Susan Sullivan quit as Lenore. The network and studio were bombarded with negative mail.

On 12/17/2017 at 11:09 PM, DRW50 said:

If there's any consistency to early '80s AW it's that the show is simultaneously boring as hell and weird as hell. 

 

 

 

I wonder if P&G ever considered transferring Douglas Marland to  AW  after he made ATWT a critical and ratings success in the 80s.   He worked at AW in the 70s with Lemay so he had experience with the show.  I also wonder if P&G ever considered hiring Paul Rauch back as EP in 1996 when he was hired at GL.  Clearly Rauch was willing to work for P&G again. He also would have been better for AW than the sub-par Charlotte Savitz, who was EP for two years. In hindsight,  P&G probably hired her to dismantle the show in order to make it easier to cancel.  Goutman was probably getting "practice" as EP at AW knowing that if it was cancelled that he would be transferred to ATWT.

On 12/17/2017 at 11:09 PM, DRW50 said:

If there's any consistency to early '80s AW it's that the show is simultaneously boring as hell and weird as hell. 

 

ABC was firing on all cylinders at the time and AW was as dull as Ada's dishwater. It really was a slog to get through most days.Really, all I cared about was Vicky Wyndham and even she was saddled with dreck. 

 

It's no wonder the show sank in the ratings. AW would get appreciably better by the mid 80s, but it was too little too late for lapsed viewers.

I watched AW from the summer of 1986 until the final episode.  However, I'm currently watching the whole Janice/Mitch poisoning of Mac storyline.  While I'm enjoying it, I'm wondering what the reaction was from the fans at that time. 

I know I've watched the Janice/Rachel pool scene a million times, but I'm wondering if the storyline was as legendary then as it seems to be now.

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On 12/19/2017 at 3:51 AM, watson71 said:

I wonder if P&G ever considered transferring Douglas Marland to  AW  after he made ATWT a critical and ratings success in the 80s.

 

I've always believed that P&G would have asked Marland to assume the HW'ing reins at AW once it was clear he was becoming tired at ATWT.  It's just that he died before anyone at P&G got the chance.

I thought that he had been planning to leave to start his own soap, but it's all academic now.

I got to Mac's death episodes last weekend. I hadn't seen them since original airing. On Sunday morning from 9 to noon, I cried. And cried. And cried. And cried. So many of those actors do such wonderful work. It must've been so difficult to relive it all, only as the characters this time. Although I have to say, it really distinguishes the quality actors from the pretty people.  Some of them just can't pull it off.

 

This weekend I'll keep going (or maybe not...it *is* Christmas) Coming up next is the funeral and the will reading. They had some good actors on that show, I'll say that.

Below is a 1965 promo for NBCs Daytime lineup, including Moment of Truth that starred Douglass Watson who would go on to play Mac Cory on AW:

 

 

Speaking of Doug Watson and his alter ego, Mac Cory, I'm in the mood for his Christmas toasts...now more than ever. I have a feeling that he was a surrogate father/grandfather figure for many audience members...and maybe some cast and crew members as well. ❤

33 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Speaking of Doug Watson and his alter ego, Mac Cory, I'm in the mood for his Christmas toasts...now more than ever. I have a feeling that he was a surrogate father/grandfather figure for many audience members...and maybe some cast and crew members as well. ❤

Doug also never gets credit for his very strong ugly christmas cardigan game.  Mac's sweaters get louder as the 80's progress.

He was a pioneer in that he made ugly Christmas sweaters cool. He was ahead of his time!! 😊🎄