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Just now, DramatistDreamer said:

 

I know that Eric H. Holder actually started the group and Obama is joining him. I've read that the group is currently developing its team, which is encouraging since it's well needed. I just assume that most of the work that this group does won't receive much media attention, which is fine, the objective is to make those changes whether it is done quietly or not.

Yes, I think I may have heard something to that effect about Perez, which, if true, is also good news. For now, it seems that he may be the frontrunner for Chairman of the DNC, so if this is a platform that is given priority, so much the better.

 

 

I've already decided that redistricting is something I want to get involved with. That and working on Sherrod Brown's campaign are probably going to be the way I try to cope with this nightmare. Plus this campaign showed me that I no longer want to deal with people who need politics to be entertaining. no more marches or rallies with people who then turn around and stay. Give me the nitty gritty stuff working with people who understand what's at stake.

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Anyone wanting to oppose Sessions, you can call 1-888-723-5709

5 hours ago, GregNYC said:

 

If you look at the numbers, liberal white women, blacks, latinos, muslims and other minorities is not enough to bring you over 50%. You will lose all the time. You need the white working class males from the rust belt to win.

Except Bernie ignored those minorities and lost the primary by 4 million votes. Something the Bernie supporters who think he walks on water ignore and voters they don't believe matter either. Yes the democrats lost sight of those voters(Bill Clinton, who has more political moxie than Sanders and a lot of other politicians) wanted to go after them and his wife's campaign ignored him. Clearly a big mistake. I'm not saying forget them. I'm saying quit turning up your nose and taking minority voters and women for granted. White women also voted for trump. HOw about had just 3 percent of white women changed their votes, Clinton would have won also. But I don't see the media going crazy over that either. Maybe we should invest some time into targeting those supposed disenfranchised voters also. As a white woman it makes me ill knowing that had just a small percentage of those women voted for Hillary, she'd be president.

 

 

 

My senator Durbin to Sessions - boom

 

"There's not a spot of evidence in your public career to say" you'd follow the law on immigration issues. "Tell me I'm wrong."

 

Edited by JaneAusten

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5 hours ago, GregNYC said:

 

If you look at the numbers, liberal white women, blacks, latinos, muslims and other minorities is not enough to bring you over 50%. You will lose all the time. You need the white working class males from the rust belt to win.

Not at all. White working class men are becoming less and less of the electorate every cycle, because they are aging and dying off. Minorities are about to take over and white working class men are about to be in the minority.

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39 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

Interesting. Even my Rob Portman is in favor of the delay and he's usually right in lockstep.

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1 hour ago, dragonflies said:

 

 

Why was he fired?  (I apologize for asking the question, but I can't get my iPad mini to play the video.)

57 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

If the GOP insists on repealing (rather than repairing) the ACA, then for God's sake, do it right.  Hold off on repealing until you know that you have an alternative that is effective and allows for a smooth transition.  Otherwise, you're just going to wind up with more people uninsured than ever before.

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Trump put one of his supporters in the position, that's why the other man was fired. I saw a video where he was crying. He went all the way back to Kennedy and has done all the POTUSs up till Trump. Trump is such a heartless ass. 

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1 hour ago, JaneAusten said:

Bill Clinton, who has more political moxie than Sanders and a lot of other politicians, wanted to go after [white, working class, male voters in the Rust Belt] and his wife's campaign ignored him. Clearly a big mistake.

 

Am I wrong or didn't Bill Clinton also criticize at least parts of the ACA during the campaign?

 

Say what you will about Bill, but when it comes to politics, the letch knows what he is talking about.  (Same goes for John Edwards.  He was probably the first to talk about the economic divide that would take over this country way back when he ran for the Democratic nomination, before the baby mama drama effectively killed his career.)

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23 minutes ago, Khan said:

If the GOP insists on repealing (rather than repairing) the ACA, then for God's sake, do it right.  Hold off on repealing until you know that you have an alternative that is effective and allows for a smooth transition.  Otherwise, you're just going to wind up with more people uninsured than ever before.

These fools never had a plan. Did you ever hear of one? Nada. They spent 6 years in congress voting 300 plus times to overturn the ACA and never once talked about another option.

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8 minutes ago, Roman said:

Trump put one of his supporters in the position, that's why the other man was fired. I saw a video where he was crying. He went all the way back to Kennedy and has done all the POTUSs up till Trump. Trump is such a heartless ass. 

 

Unbelievable.

 

Thanks, Roman!

Just now, JaneAusten said:

These fools never had a plan. Did you ever hear of one? Nada. They spent 6 years in congress voting 300 plus times to overturn the ACA and never once talked about another option.

 

Believe me, Jane, ICAM.  I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt before.

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1 hour ago, ReddFoxx said:

Not at all. White working class men are becoming less and less of the electorate every cycle, because they are aging and dying off. Minorities are about to take over and white working class men are about to be in the minority.

In something like 20 years. That's a long time to wait. A lot of irrevocable damage can be done in that time.  Not to mention when 29% of Latino men vote for Trump, that tells me that as they move up the economic ladder they aren't necessarily going to stick with Democrats on mass. Not that I necessarily blame people for voting their own interests, I'm just saying I think it's a huge mistake to take anyone for granted.

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7 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

In something like 20 years. That's a long time to wait. A lot of irrevocable damage can be done in that time.  Not to mention when 29% of Latino men vote for Trump, that tells me that as they move up the economic ladder they aren't necessarily going to stick with Democrats on mass. Not that I necessarily blame people for voting their own interests, I'm just saying I think it's a huge mistake to take anyone for granted.

 

Even if the demographics favor us, we can see that the Republicans will just game the system to disenfranchise people. They're still going strong with voter suppression. These are people who wouldn't even give Merrick Garland a hearing, and look at how the N.C. legislature tried to hamstring Roy Cooper when they lost. Whether the numbers are in our favor or not, we're dealing with people who cheat because they know they can't win fairly. Even this week with the rush of hearings shows that they are stunningly and openly corrupt.

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4 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

Even if the demographics favor us, we can see that the Republicans will just game the system to disenfranchise people. They're still going strong with voter suppression. These are people who wouldn't even give Merrick Garland a hearing, and look at how the N.C. legislature tried to hamstring Roy Cooper when they lost. Whether the numbers are in our favor or not, we're dealing with people who cheat because they know they can't win fairly. Even this week with the rush of hearings shows that they are stunningly and openly corrupt.

I know you're right, but my mind keeps defaulting to this idea that that kind of pure evil can't keep winning. I guess I have to knock it into my head that it can and it has.

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If they're getting skittish about it, might be because of the backlash, yeah alot hate it, but for the most part it has helped alot of people.

The ACA needs work and tweaked but it's a step in the right direction.

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