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https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/650e7508-9634-36b1-9d6b-fb0bf7f5e581/ss_ayotte-down-8-points-in.html

 

Looks like Ayotte will lose. I wonder if the Dems really could win the Senate? I'm also loving that the Republicans are too disarrayed to vote Garland in while they have the chance.

Garland may not be my preferred choice but if the dems take over the senate, I want him to be allowed to serve. I think it would be tacky to pull back his nomination.

Would they be pulling back his nomination or does it expire at the end of the term? Some Republicans seem desperate to confirm him in a lame duck session, so it seems like they think it's their last chance, but I don't know how the process works.

 

Probably 20 years ago I would have thought HRC should keep Obama's nomination or renominate him, but not any more, especially not after Trump.  Now I think she should shove someone more liberal right down their throats if she can.

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Idiot. He's gonna get Trump supporters shot up on election day listening to him. 

 

Sounds like a win-win to me. <_<

 

I agree. I hope they know that some people in inner cities are itching for something like this to pop off. Just itching for a reason to put a bullet in someone. 

As scary as that sounds, you are absolutely right. These Trump supporters have no clue how dangerous it would be to go into North or West Philadelphia or South Chicago in order to stir up some trouble, especially from an extremely racist point of view.

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I've also read that early voting in swing states has favored HRC.  Polls vs. actual voting tallies. Women are definitely showing up to the polls though, that is abundantly clear. 

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I've also read that early voting in swing states has favored HRC.  Polls vs. actual voting tallies. Women are definitely showing up to the polls though, that is abundantly clear. 

I read an article about blue collar white women turning on Trump. We'll see if it's true, but I wouldn't be that surprised.  These are women who are sexually harassed without the option to just "get another job", as one of the Trump boys thought Ivanka would do.

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I think Indiana and NH will be close - Bayh is rusty and IN will likely go for Trump, and Ayotte is another media darling (unfortunately for her she's also a colossal dumbass). I could see Democrats either picking up 1 or 2 seats (as WI seems to have tightened I can't guess who will win) or getting 4-5. I hope it's the latter because otherwise Hillary won't get any of her judges through.

 

Meanwhile, a disturbing account (if I were you I wouldn't click on the link itself as National Review is just a pseudo-intellectual far right mouthpiece) of the sustained hate campaign against a conservative and his family because of opposition to Trump. A part of me thinks, "This is what they set up for years and now it's coming home to roost," but I feel like that's giving a free pass to this stuff. The attacks against his child are especially disgusting.

 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/david-french-abuse-as-a-never-trumper

Indiana is not the typical red state. Them going for Trump is not a surprise but despite everything both Bayh and Feingold are popular. Bayh is ahead now by 6% and Feingold by about the same. Maybe they were ahead by more. Combine Indiana with the fact Pence is hated there. There are dump Pence signs all over the state. The new GOPer running isn't remotely tying himself to Pence but the prior Governor who was a GOPer but stayed away from the social aspect of the GOP. Ayotte is not going to win I don't care what kind of media darling she was. Her last couple of weeks have cost her. And Rubio now has been hammered with rallies and commericlals by his opponent and the president and the Miami Herald just endorsed his opponent. PEC has the dems chance of winning the senate now at 79% and I trust Sam Wang a heck of a lot more than Silver.

Mitch Daniels-the Governor of Indiana before Pence--is definitely less about social conservatism than Pence, at least publicly. And Bayh, for all of his faults, has both the loyalty dating back to his tenure in the Senate (Birch Bayh was--is, he's still alive!--a liberal lion in the tradition of his friend Ted Kennedy) and the fact that he was most likely Indiana's greatest Governor ever is definitely something in his favor. I was exhausted with him when he retired from the Senate in 2010, but he stepped in when Baron Hill stepped down, when he really didn't have to. I give him credit for that.

I really think states like Indiana and Missouri are an example of "wait and see"--Indiana, in particular, has been all over the place in the polls, some showing that Trump is leading with double digits, others showing results MUCH tighter than that; Pence embarrassing the state on a national level with that "religious freedom" (sure, Jan) law playing a heavy hand there. And hey, Hillary has finally put campaign resources in out there. We'll just have to see. 

 

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I think Indiana and NH will be close - Bayh is rusty and IN will likely go for Trump, and Ayotte is another media darling (unfortunately for her she's also a colossal dumbass). I could see Democrats either picking up 1 or 2 seats (as WI seems to have tightened I can't guess who will win) or getting 4-5. I hope it's the latter because otherwise Hillary won't get any of her judges through.

 

Meanwhile, a disturbing account (if I were you I wouldn't click on the link itself as National Review is just a pseudo-intellectual far right mouthpiece) of the sustained hate campaign against a conservative and his family because of opposition to Trump. A part of me thinks, "This is what they set up for years and now it's coming home to roost," but I feel like that's giving a free pass to this stuff. The attacks against his child are especially disgusting.

 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/david-french-abuse-as-a-never-trumper

Indiana is not the typical red state. Them going for Trump is not a surprise but despite everything both Bayh and Feingold are popular. Bayh is ahead now by 6% and Feingold by about the same. Maybe they were ahead by more. Combine Indiana with the fact Pence is hated there. There are dump Pence signs all over the state. The new GOPer running isn't remotely tying himself to Pence but the prior Governor who was a GOPer but stayed away from the social aspect of the GOP. Ayotte is not going to win I don't care what kind of media darling she was. Her last couple of weeks have cost her. And Rubio now has been hammered with rallies and commericlals by his opponent and the president and the Miami Herald just endorsed his opponent. PEC has the dems chance of winning the senate now at 79% and I trust Sam Wang a heck of a lot more than Silver.

Mitch Daniels-the Governor of Indiana before Pence--is definitely less about social conservatism than Pence, at least publicly. And Bayh, for all of his faults, has both the loyalty dating back to his tenure in the Senate (Birch Bayh was--is, he's still alive!--a liberal lion in the tradition of his friend Ted Kennedy) and the fact that he was most likely Indiana's greatest Governor ever is definitely something in his favor. I was exhausted with him when he retired from the Senate in 2010, but he stepped in when Baron Hill stepped down, when he really didn't have to. I give him credit for that.

I really think states like Indiana and Missouri are an example of "wait and see"--Indiana, in particular, has been all over the place in the polls, some showing that Trump is leading with double digits, others showing results MUCH tighter than that; Pence embarrassing the state on a national level with that "religious freedom" (sure, Jan) law playing a heavy hand there. And hey, Hillary has finally put campaign resources in out there. We'll just have to see. 

 

Mitch Daniels was very popular and well liked and put his support forward for Pence not realizing I think thaty Pence only looked at this as a stepping stone. He actually spoke out during the entire debacle on Pence trying to push through that so called "religious freedom" anti gay business bill.

 

I'm not worried about Bayh or Feingold winning. I'm trying to understand and look for polls showing these races tightening and all I can point to is Sam Wang's data. The other races I will agree are tight but hell Toomey had a 15 point lead in PA and now he's basically tied with McGinty. The same in Nevada where Heck was way ahead

 

 

On a side note I had to laugh at Nate Silver's analyis a couple of weeks back where he was showing the map if only women voted, if only men voted, etc.. If only women vote the entire country goes blue. So for all you male doubting thomas's, we women, along with our minority brothers and sisters(reminder WMEN are not a minority)will again save our country as we have the last two elections. You can thank us on November 10th

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-data-shows-women-turning-out-in-droves-to-vote/vi-AAjfrvG?ocid=spartanntp

Women are killing early voting in Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina but heh, let's keep talking about why HRC is not winning by 50 points. Or lets not talk about the dems likely winning AZ, GA, and perhaps even Texas, or how Trump is going to lose badly in Utah likely to McMullin(he's now polling behind McMullin and Clinton). Frankly this election more than any other sickens me in how pockets of REAL voters keep getting ignored especially by male lefty's like Michael Moore.

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Article on how Texas is now within striking distance but that has been the case for se4several weeks, as the GOP Governor reached out to the GOP base in fear of losing the state several weeks ago. Why not ask yourself why the media has never covered this?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/22/democrats-texas-hillary-clinton-polls-donald-trump?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

And early voting in Virginia, up by 63.2 %in Northern Virginia but down by 5% in the rest of the state.

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My Mother told me that she was on the phone with my sister earlier this week and my sister (who had been evacuated from her apartment because of Hurricane Matthew's aftermath in NC) had to cut her phone call short because it was the first day of early voting and she was going to vote.

 

Women are indeed rising up to "Grab 'Em by the Vote" as one slogan put it.

 

Oddly enough, even though I haven't seen Moore's Trumpland, the review I read made it seem as if it were less about Trump and more about backing Clinton even proposing that based on her work with organizations like the Children's Defense Fund speaks more of the kind of President she may truly turn out to be, rather than the political figure that many have come to demonize over the years.

 

Article on how Texas is now within striking distance but that has been the case for se4several weeks, as the GOP Governor reached out to the GOP base in fear of losing the state several weeks ago. Why not ask yourself why the media has never covered this?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/22/democrats-texas-hillary-clinton-polls-donald-trump?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

And early voting in Virginia, up by 63.2 %in Northern Virginia but down by 5% in the rest of the state.

 

 

Would you say that N. Virginia is more left-leaning or more conservative?

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