I had a conversation with a libertarian about guns the other day and they have such a weird way of seeing things.   In his view, guns are needed for the day the government comes calling, and that the only thing that stops a government from becoming a dictatorship is a fear of the people.   I said they won't fear your guns, and he went into the first thing the nazis did was make sure they were the only ones who had guns.   It's such an odd worldview.

Crazy talk. As if a bunch of civilians would have been a match for the Nazi war machine just because they had a few guns. Same thing with these Rambo wannabes who think civilians with guns would be a match for the American military. Somehow they manage to forget about the satellites, drones,  tanks, missile launchers, bombs, supplies and organization our military would bring in that scenario. If the government ever does come calling (and yeah, I don't believe it will) we're screwed.

Mostly I just think they are stuck in the past, I admit I used to think like this, when I was younger, or at least I could follow the logic back in the day where one would need to arm themselves against someone else who had a weapon. But then I realized that the advancements the military has received in the past few years is far beyond the capabilities of what a regular citizen would be able to combat. So that's already chalked up to as a "loss." 

 

I've been reading a lot online about these individuals who feel that "good guys with guns" shouldn't be penalized for other shooters, and that it is our right to have guns and no one should take that away from anyone. But it's plainly obvious that everyone should not have a gun. When does their right to have a gun preclude my right to live? There should definitely be psychological evaluations, stricter laws for those who can't responsibly handle their firearms as well as more difficulty in acquiring a gun.

Skin- I agree with you. I think that the NRA has managed to get many people to believe that "Obama is coming for your guns", but he's never advocated banning guns. Just some common sense restrictions.

 

At the very least a person should need some gun safety training, a background check and a license. Every year something like a hundred (I have to look up the statistic, but it's a lot) toddlers shoot someone because their parents don't follow basic gun safety laws. That's crazy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/toddlers-shot-victim-week-2015-article-1.2398377

Edited June 15, 20169 yr by Juliajms

Trump has hit 70% negative approval.

 

Also: He says Obama supports ISIS.

 

I think this dude wants out.

Edited June 15, 20169 yr by Vee

Interesting Op-Ed piece which likens Bernie's version of progressive politics to the Windows 95 version and says that Elizabeth Warren is a progressive much more in keeping with the current times:

 

Sanders, the Windows 95 of Progressive Politics?

 

Trump has hit 70% negative approval.

 

Also: He says Obama supports ISIS.

 

I think this dude wants out.

 

 

I've thought this for quite some time, while also believing that he has had moments of delusion where he thought/hoped he could actually handle the job.  The more crazy he sounds the more his rabid base of supporters propel him forward.  Maybe some of his rabid base secretly wish to destroy the current GOP, thinking they can re-make it in their own hateful image or perhaps people who are angry with/betrayed by the GOP and want to hit the party where it would really hurt?  I can't decipher such warped thinking but as long as Trump shuffles back to his penthouse and stays far from the White House, I admit, I don't really care.

Edited June 15, 20169 yr by DramatistDreamer

Trump has hit 70% negative approval.

 

Also: He says Obama supports ISIS.

 

I think this dude wants out.

None of this is new to Trump - he peddled the same conspiracy theories in 2011 and 2012. I think people just expected him to stop once he hit the general election. I don't think he has any ability to stop, or filter himself. He likely also sees it as a winning formula, and sadly I'm not entirely sure he's wrong (I'm already seeing the GOP parrot the line that Obama cares more about Trump than he does about the shooter).

Trump has hit 70% negative approval.

 

Also: He says Obama supports ISIS.

 

I think this dude wants out.

 

None of this is new to Trump - he peddled the same conspiracy theories in 2011 and 2012. I think people just expected him to stop once he hit the general election. I don't think he has any ability to stop, or filter himself. He likely also sees it as a winning formula, and sadly I'm not entirely sure he's wrong (I'm already seeing the GOP parrot the line that Obama cares more about Trump than he does about the shooter).

Meanwhile, the GOP should start caring about the victims. 

They care if they can use it to bomb somebody. That's about as far as it goes.

None of this is new to Trump - he peddled the same conspiracy theories in 2011 and 2012. I think people just expected him to stop once he hit the general election. I don't think he has any ability to stop, or filter himself. He likely also sees it as a winning formula, and sadly I'm not entirely sure he's wrong (I'm already seeing the GOP parrot the line that Obama cares more about Trump than he does about the shooter).

As he should. The shooter is dead and Trump's still alive.

The delusion of media darling Marco and those around him continues to baffle me. What exactly do they think he can do about Orlando? Give them more bottled water? Pass out free Tupac CDs?

 

But Lopez-Cantera says he felt “compelled” to continue talking it through. The two of them were shaken by what they saw in Orlando, the bloody sidewalks and the ashen faces of local, state and federal authorities.

“This is bigger than me. And this isn’t about me. And it’s not about you. It’s about our country and this election,” Lopez-Cantera said to Rubio, recounting the conversation for POLITICO. “It’s deeply consequential … In the current field, I’m the best candidate in the general election. But I’m not looking at this through rose-colored glasses.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/marco-rubio-reelection-carlos-lopez-cantera-224388#ixzz4BgGc9E3D 

Senate Democrats are holding a fillibuster over gun control reform LIVE:

 

http://livestream.com/accounts/300260/events/4963928

 

 

Even Fox News' Gretchen Carlson is rebelling re: gun control.

 

Corbin Reiff trashes Trump re: his comments on soldiers in Iraq.

Edited June 15, 20169 yr by Vee

The delusion of media darling Marco and those around him continues to baffle me. What exactly do they think he can do about Orlando? Give them more bottled water? Pass out free Tupac CDs?

 

But Lopez-Cantera says he felt “compelled” to continue talking it through. The two of them were shaken by what they saw in Orlando, the bloody sidewalks and the ashen faces of local, state and federal authorities.

“This is bigger than me. And this isn’t about me. And it’s not about you. It’s about our country and this election,” Lopez-Cantera said to Rubio, recounting the conversation for POLITICO. “It’s deeply consequential … In the current field, I’m the best candidate in the general election. But I’m not looking at this through rose-colored glasses.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/marco-rubio-reelection-carlos-lopez-cantera-224388#ixzz4BgGc9E3D 

LOL….maybe they want him to just stand there and smile and squint those eyes of his…LOL

The drama continues with the Trump campaign and the RNC. He's too lazy to do fundraising calls.

 

And yes, Trump is losing the GOP.

Edited June 16, 20169 yr by Vee

Senate Democrats are holding a fillibuster over gun control reform LIVE:

 

http://livestream.com/accounts/300260/events/4963928

 

 

Bernie is a no show

Worth the spam.

 

Some news out of Atlanta today, where Trump held a rally. 1/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

It appears that a morning fundraiser was held at Charlie Loudermilk's home in Buckhead. 2/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

Loudermilk, the founder of Aaron Rents (the furniture leasing company that preys on poor people w/ no credit) 3/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

Owns one of the largest private residences in the city (2nd or 3rd to Tyler Perry) 4/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

Loudermilk has been a GOP kingmaker in GA for decades, giving millions to one cause or another. 5/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

The co-chairs included a who's who of ATL business leaders and they expected to raise $1 million. 6/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

Gov. Deal have a tepid introduction. Now mind you, he skipped out on being a RNC delegate and *might* go as a "guest." 7/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

Sen. David Perdue (Yes, the guy who prayed the "death curse" on POTUS) was absent due to "Washington business." 7/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

Here's the zinger 8/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

The million dollar event purportedly barely clears $100K. 9/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

If Trump can't raise a million in a setting like that in GA, one has to wonder if he can win the state. 10/?

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016

It's a really bad omen. And one we should pay attention to. 11/11

— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor)

June 16, 2016